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		<title>Manhattan &#8211; Further Discussions &#8211; &#8220;We&#8217;re All Messed Up&#8221;</title>
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Note: Our forum is down.<br />
We discuss further topics from &#8220;Manhattan&#8221;.<br />
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Thanks for all the emails, messages and voicemails. We really appreciate it.<br />
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		<title>2X14 Manhattan &#8211; First Thoughts (Lies, Lies, Lies, yeah)</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the a Special Episode of the Once Upon a Time Fan Podcast First Thoughts about &#8220;Manhattan&#8221;. This is a podcast dedicated to the hit ABC TV show, Once Upon a Time. &#160; Please ReTweet this to spread the word (Click on the ReTweet link on the graphic below): I&#39;m listening to the #OnceUponaTime [&#8230;]</p>
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The podcast is hosted by Jeff and Colleen Roney, a married couple from Orange County, CA.<br />
The goal of the episode is for us to give our first thoughts, warts and all, so here it is.<br />
See Show Notes below<br />
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Show notes:<br />
Rumpelstiltskin was happy to be called to the front of the Ogre War (first one?), but Milah was worried about him. This seemed very different than how she treated him later.<br />
Rumpel mentioned of undoing his &#8220;Father&#8217;s actions&#8221; and called him a coward.<br />
We see a SoHo sign hun on a building on the background, but the Gaslight area in Vancouver (where the scenes were filmed) seemed very different than Manhattan, even the the production team tried to make it appear as New York.<br />
Bae lived in Apt. 407.<br />
UPS/Fedex comment was funny. Is Fedex an ABC advertiser?<br />
I wished that Neal wasn&#8217;t Bae, and that Neal would help Gold, Emma and Henry find Bae. That would more like a saga, than this quick, obvious reveal.<br />
Lost (as we&#8217;ve said many times before) loves to split up the main group so they can learn info and see things, then make decisions on how or if the split person(s) will tell the rest of the group when they return.<br />
So, we now know what was in the box. An easy and elegant idea.<br />
Coincidence, Fate and Destiny were used prominently. Playing out the choices Emma and Neal (especially since he is Bae) could have made;<br />
If they would have stayed together, the cursed would have never been broken, and if Neal would have lied about his real persona, Gold would never had been reunited with his son.<br />
Neal and Emma choice ((basically) bullied into by August) was like Dreamy and Nova. A choice against true love and back onto the road of destiny.<br />
Emma lie #1. And she chided August for lying. Tsk Tsk.<br />
We see the Ogre Ware camp.<br />
Blind Witch as a Seer. An ironic and much used plot device in stories. We also discuss the many uses of eyes on hands in stories, movies and religious art.<br />
Emma calls Mom when she&#8217;s in trouble.<br />
Seeing the future comes with a price &#8211; and practice, it turns out. Gold calls it a puzzle, like the show itself.<br />
Emma lie #2. That&#8217;s two, sister!<br />
So sure for plot development, hide a easy to decipher clue in an obvious place, but not in real life. Side note: Regina went to the E.T. school of levitating things.<br />
Don&#8217;t get me started about Henry&#8217;s family tree. Maybe Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil can sort it all out.<br />
A horse, of course. Almost Mr. Ed.<br />
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