Interview with Malerie McDonald – Getting to Know Snow White


We previously interviewed the Regina cosplayer extraordinaire, Reini Side and now we meet her friendly nemesis, Snow White cosplayed (wonderfully) by Malerie McDonald. I remember seeing Malerie at Regal Con but was too shy to introduce myself. I believe I did compliment her on her cosplay. I’m shocked at how similar to Mary Margaret, Malerie looks. Oh well, enough of me rambling, please get to know the quirky, creative, cool and very kind, Malerie McDonald.


Describe yourself in 3-5 words.

Quirky Enthusiastic Caring

Do you have any nicknames you’d like to share?

Growing up, I could not walk into a room without hearing someone sing “They call her Mellow Yellow” lol

Did you have a Fairy Tale dream about yourself when you were younger? What was it?

I would dream all the time; Daydreams as well as dreams at night. I would imagine myself as every princess I saw in the latest movie. At first, when I was little my favorite princess was Ariel because I could relate the most to her. I am also the youngest of seven girls. (I know my poor father lol) I love to sing! And I daydream about living in another world all the time. Then as time went on I started getting the nickname Snow White because I am so pale and have dark hair naturally. Here is a wonderful picture that Malerie provided of she and her son.

malerie and her son

How did you start Cosplaying? Where would you point someone if they are interested in starting? Any beginner tips?

I have ALWAYS loved dressing up. Whether it was for Halloween or Theatre or a Musical I was in. I suppose I started “cosplaying” when I was about 20 years old and I heard this company was looking for actresses to portray Princesses, Fairies and Super Heroes for Girl’s Birthday Parties. I was always into painting in Jr. High and High school and was good at it because I am a very visual person. So I started working there and dressing up doing Storytime, Face Painting, Dancing and Singing for Parties. I worked for this company for about 7 years. Now as for Cosplaying at conventions, I started at Regal Con as Mary Margaret. It was fun and easy because I resemble Ginny. I would say to anyone getting into cosplay to do what makes them happy. I know SO many people praise me with compliments because I resemble Ginny even more so in cosplay and I love that but you don’t have to resemble a character to cosplay. It’s all about dressing up as your favorite character

What was your first OUAT Cosplay costume? Where was the first placed you Cosplayed?

The first place I Cosplayed Mary Margaret was Regal Con and the first place I Cosplayed OUAT Snow was D23 Prior to those events I had only Cosplayed for Halloween and Princess Parties where I would Sing Act Dance and Face Paint

What does OUAT mean to you? Has it helped you through difficult times in your life?

OUAT means a lot to me. It has helped me through some very difficult times. My husband was serving in the USN when I started watching and as many military wives and families will tell you, you rarely get to see each other when they are on active duty. So the first thing that really resonated was when Charming told Snow “I will find you, I will always find you”. It literally brought me to tears. And as time went by after my husband had come back from deployment and was still away from me but on shore duty every Sunday night we would FaceTime and watch Once together. We were able to see Season 3 together this way.

What has OUAT given to you? Friends, etc?

OUAT has given me a mantra of Hope and Love that I carry with me daily. I work with special needs children and people often tell me “Wow, you must have a lot of patience” and I always respond, “Yes, a lot of patience but also you have to look at them through love”. Love is a great motivator to get you through ANYTHING. Another thing OUAT has brought me is a lot of friends; people who can truly say are my closest friends now.

Has OUAT and Cosplaying given you opportunities to give back to others? What have been some highlights?

I have always been told I looked like Snow White (not just OUAT Snow White) and earlier this year I was able to team up with a wonderful friend who wanted to start a Princess Etiquette Camp. It was months in the making but we finally did one week and hopefully, in the fall will do another. Teaching those girls manners dress as Classic Snow has been such a wonderful experience.


Have you ever met your favorite OUAT actor or actresses? Who is it? If you have met him/her, what was that meeting like?

I met my favorite Dwarf Lee Arenberg aka Grumpy/Dreamy. I was a volunteer at Regal Con and being a volunteer I honestly didn’t think I would get to actually meet any of the stars. I was monitoring the autograph session and Lee called me over asked my name and we discussed Ink. He also told me He could see the resemblance between me and GiGi! I had moments with Sean Aka Robin Hood, David aka Dr. Whale, Michael aka Happy, Faustino aka Sleepy and Eion aka Pinocchio but for Lee to really take the time and call me over and get to know me even in those few minutes was really awesome. I also got to take a picture with Lana that day… I don’t really feel like I got to “meet” her because it was very hard to get in and get out in the Photo session by the time I got there, but what I do remember was a brief exchange;

When I walked in to the area for the photo op with Lana, I heard her say “Well hello, you look familiar” to which I replied “Please don’t kill me”.

What are your thoughts about Season 5?

I’m excited to see what happens this season! I am hoping to see a lot more of Snow and Charming trying to help Emma fight the darkness. I want to see what happens to Rumple!!! I love him so much and want to see what happens now that he is no longer the Dark One.

What causes or charities are important to you and how can we help?

Reini, my Evil Queen Cosplay Partner, and I have thought about doing charities and going to hospitals spreading messages of Hope and Redemption by Cosplaying as Snow and Regina. We just need to organize and perhaps get some sponsorships.

reini and Malerie

What projects are you involved with and how can we see them and support you with them?

I work with an amazing person. We were able to do a one week summer Princess Camp and taught the girls good manners and how to be kind to one another. Which is SO important to me and weighs on my heart because every little girl should be able to feel beautiful and be treated like a Princess.

Is your significant other a Oncer, too? How do they deal with your Oncerness?

My husband was stationed in Pearl Harbor when we both started watching Once. It became a bonding time for us to watch it on Skype together. Later when he deployed and we couldn’t watch it together, I would recap him on what he missed. I’m happy to say that my Charming has found his way back to me. He definitely embraces it even though at times he doesn’t understand ships and other Oncer things. He definitely loves the fact that I resemble Snow.

What is your favorite OUAT line and why?

“And what exactly do you think fairy tales are? They are a reminder, that our lives will get better. If we just hold onto hope. Your happy ending might not be what you expected. That is what will make it so special.” Mary Margaret

Something Extra

Malerie tells us “The best part about being a Snow Cosplayer interacting with kids… They are so perceptive that when I had to fill in as Anna from “Frozen” during the ‘Love is Powerful’ segment of the camp a little girl who fell in love with me as Snow White leaned in to hug me and whispered to me “I know you’re not the REAL Anna from frozen”… And when I looked at her with fear in my eyes because I was caught… She looked me dead in the eye and said still quietly “You’re Snow White pretending to be Anna… ” I then winked at her and motioned a shhh… “Don’t tell,” she said, “I won’t let anyone know you’re really Snow White in disguise” and she hugged me once more and skipped off to join the other girls at the crafts table.”


One More Thing

Malerie wanted to give a big shout out to her amazing husband who throughout this especially hard year has been the Best Most Supportive Charming EVER! Here is a great pic Malerie sent.


What a great couple! Thank you Malerie for such a great interview, and we want to thank Malerie’s husband for his service to our country. Thank you, sir!

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Swan Song Review – First Thoughts – 309




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First Thoughts

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Broken Heart Analysis – Main Show – 308




Broken Heart Analysis

Main Show

Episode Number: 308

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From Katie Telera

Hi Jeff and Colleen,
(I would include the title of the episode in the subject but I can’t think of the name of it as Zelena saids “oops” anyways it’s the night of Sunday November 29th)
I’ve been listening for a while but I’m finially able to email my thoughts on the episode so I thought I would just email in a few things it’s late so my typeinf miht be bad but as soon as I wake up tomorrow I’m packed so I thought after the episode ended to send this right after because I’ve tried in the past but every time I want to but I’m so busy I can’t so here it is…
1. So this broke my heart… When Hook told Emma that she will always be an orphan. I had went back to Neverland when she told Snow that she was an orphan and that was how the map worked so it crushed me so much
2. I GET it. Emma not trusting Hook/Killian with the sword who wouldn’t but really not give it to him also if Hook was seeing Rumple then is it possible for Emma to see another Past Dark One??? Or can only one dark one see a past dark one???
3. I was so sad Merlin died. It was so fast, and then he was gone :( I still don’t get how Nimue is supposed to help though.
4. Oh Henry :( He was so angry at Emma. I am glad that he was able to forgive her though. #OperationCobraPart2
5. Oooh. Is Rumbelle really over? I was actually really proud of Belle. Yes, it is easy for them to back together, but Belle needs to think about herself for once, and I was glad that she had the strength to do it. If they are meant to be with each other, they will be. Plus did she really walk all the way out to the well when she could just not have shown up then it would have hurt him slightly more because she didn’t show
6. I was also proud of Regina. It took a lot of strength for her to put faith in Zelena once again and I admit, I was smiling a little when Zelena got to coo over her baby. Still need a name to call the child though…
7.i really like Reginas sass <3 "You're being stupid." Sums up everything real quick 8.The blood of someone has gone to hell and back. And I found it funny when Hook said Bloody Hell because how do you get to Hell is by Rumples blood And 9.Wow the winter finale is next week I don't know what to do after next week (other than school work because I'm in 10th grade and teachers are tough) I hope y'all have a great week and I'm looking forward to listening to your amazing podcasts this week. Also every week you give big love to all of us and say to pass it on well a friend of mine is going through a tough time right now so I sent her so much love that she's feeling better but what's she's going though it's going to take so much more. I'm rambling on right now I'll leave with this really short but I love your podcast and it cheers me up to listen to it when I'm having a bad day I listen to one if I'm all caught up I go back and listen to an older one to cheer me up. And it with out a doubt always works so thank you so much Signed a fellow Oncer Katie Telera ----------------- From Gabe The episode definitely lives up to its title. I am SOOO sad right now. Talk about a dark episode omg!! Definitely didn’t see THAT coming in the least. Hopefully Merlin can come back in a similar way that all the dark ones did. Question, why didn’t Merlin put a protection spell over his heart YEARS ago?? Dang Merlin, be smart. I think the message of this episode mirrors the previous one (Birth) in learning to let go of those you love. I also noticed the theme of the destructive power of selfishness. I’ve only seen the episode once so I’m sure you’ll find more examples, but Emma and Hook are both being supremely selfish in their decisions. Like I said in my last e-mail, this reminds me of a parent not wanting their child to save them. Hook lived for hundreds of years, he was never afraid of dying. Emma made the selfish and short sighted decision to save him despite plenty of warnings and begging from Hook. Another major theme in this episode was the sanctity of choice. We are unique as human beings because we have free-will. We can act against our natural instincts whereas a dog or cat is unable (especially cats, they’re going to try to take over the world, just biding their time. Dogs know this ya know. That’s why they always chase the cats around). To take away a man or woman’s free will is to take away their humanity, and that is exactly what Hook has lost. It reminds me also of Supernatural’s Dean Winchester saying “what’s dead should STAY dead” as well as the dangers of violating the natural order. It seems extremely unfair that dark beings can rip out people’s hearts and control and/or kill them, but despite this power, evil always seems to lose. The big reason for that is that evil is self-defeating. Evil doesn’t necessarily need any prodding from good to be miserable or to fail. For example, if someone lives a life of decadence with promiscuity and taking drugs and alcohol, the person will eventually kill themselves either accidentally or on purpose. I think that is what the resolution of this story will uncover, now with I’m guessing 100s of dark ones going around storybrooke I’m willing to bet that their plan will fail in a way that they brought upon themselves. Even if the dark ones get everything they want, they will be utterly miserable beings. Thanks for doing the podcast guys. I just got home from visiting my brother in Houston. I watched the episode and simply HAD to get this off my chest. RIP Merlin, and Adam and Eddy… BRING HIM BACK!!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!!!! Gabealicious Nashville, TN P.S. If you guys ever get around to visiting Nashville hit me up. There’s a lot to do here and I’m an excellent host. :-)


From Kathy

Greetings Colleen and Jeff,

So let me start by saying I thought this was a great episode! Lots of angst for all shippers.

I'll start with Killian and Emma. Oh my gosh, Emma did not foresee how dark Killian would become. While he is in this phase I will refer to him as Dark Hook cause he is unbelievably dark.

I hated that he crushed Merlin's heart. I know it was really supposed to be Nimue crushing it but Dark Hook's hand was the one actually holding and squeezing. Not what I want to see from my favorite character. I also don't want to believe that he would really go along with snuffing out the darkness but he did warn Emma that he wasn't strong enough to fight it. As I asked before, how will this get resolved? I have seen one preview but am trying to avoid knowing what might happen. But I am wondering how his father will factor into the overall story.

Side note: last Sunday during your podcast, Jeff you commented about another heart being older than Merlin's. You said Belle's which totally confused me. What did you mean by your comments?

Next, Robin and Regina. I do love Zelena, but how awful to have that dynamic with her as the baby's mother, constantly present when you are trying to form a lasting relationship. I kept expecting Zelena to just poof herself and her little Green Bean out of the apartment. I expect her to cause major problems for them, but hope that motherly love may convince her to side with the Heroes to battle the Dark Ones.

Lastly, Rumple and Belle. I was not expecting her to break his heart after meeting him at the well. While I think Robert Carlyle is amazing, I did not like Rumplestiltskin for much of the first few seasons and had a hard time when Belle first started loving him. Of course you can't pick who you love, so I gave her a pass on that. I came to like him more over time although he was still scheming not too long ago. After all he did trick her by transforming himself into Killian in order to get the dagger back. Belle was been let down so many times by him. Will he be able to win her back? Where is this going?

I have a dreadful feeling that the next episode is going to leave us with an enormous cliffhanger and three months of additional angst. At least the 100th episode will include my all time favorite villain - Peter Pan!!!

As always, thanks for your podcast

Kathy T


From Brad

Wake up dearies! It's time for the things I learned this week in the episode, Broken Heart.

#1. Having someone around to
tell you when you're being
stupid, is very beneficial.

#2. Hook would have made
Jack Sparrow proud with
that pirate flourish.

#3. Monks secretly prefer

#4. When someone tries to do
you a favor by killing your
evil step sister, the least
you could do is be grateful.

#5. Archie better keep his
schedule open because
couples therapy is going to
at a all time high.

#6. Having a magical
dreamcatcher would be
great for making your wife
forget about all the dumb
things you’ve done.

#7. Finding out there is a book
that chronicles the Dark
One’s, is like carrying a
couch up 10 flights of stairs,
only to realize the out of
service elevator was
actually repaired that

#8. Nurse Ratchet is at the top
of the list of people you
should never put in charge
of watching dangerous

#9. 50 First Deaths may be a
potential sequel if Emma
continues to erase Hook’s

#10. This episode started out
great but in the end it just
went to hell.


Shouldn’t Killian have automatically had his hand returned as the Dark One? Rumple’s leg was healed after his transformation so this part didn’t make much sense to me. I understand all the things he can do with his hook but as a Dark One, having it is kind of pointless. If his hand had returned and then he changed it back, then I could overlook it.

When Hook kills Merlin he totally embraces the Darkness, so why doesn’t his appearance change? Rumple and Nimue changed immediately and Emma changed once she turned Hook into a Dark One. It seems very inconsistent.


Out of all the times that Belle could have rejected Gold, she chooses now, after the Darkness has completely left him? Maybe she secretly enjoyed taming the beast. To be fair, she has every right after all the things he has done to her. It has confused me to see the dedication she has for him time and time again even after he has hurt her so many times. Now, a pure of heart Rumple who can give her everything she’s ever wanted is rejected. It was a twist that I didn’t see coming but unfortunately, it wasn’t a very good twist.

If Gold is responsible for the actions he did as the Dark One, at least in Belle eyes, will Hook be held to the same standard? I fear this will have a lasting effect on Emma and Hook’s relationship. It’s true he had the darkness temping him but ultimately, it was Hook who made the decisions. It’s the old “the devil made me do it” argument.

After everything Storybrooke has gone through with Gold as the Dark One, why is it nonchalantly brought up that a book which chronicles the Dark One’s exists? When it was mentioned, nobody even batted an eye. Emma even had the attitude of, “I’ve got better things to do”. David in the last episode was asking King Arthur who Nimue was. Are you telling me that the whole history of Dark One’s has been in Storeybrooke THE ENTIRE TIME and nobody was looked at it!!!!! Why haven’t these chronicles been studied and memorized by this point? It would have been much more tolerable if they spoke of it as a myth or legend that needed to be found.


#1. Jeff keeps a list of Once’s
magical laws and updates it

#2. Rock music is very

#3. Red Thursday is a thing.

#4. Real life applications can be
found in the movie Liar Liar.

#5. Oz is a sexy place.

That’s it for now.

And just a heads up, don’t mind all the dust at Granny’s. It’s only Merlin’s remains.

Take Care



From Katie from Florida

Hi, Jeff and Colleen!

Jeff, you have mentioned before that you think that the smoke means different things like curses and specific people depending on the color. I agree with you. So far, I have purple for a Dark Curse, Red for Dark One Hook, Black for Evil Queen Regina, Gray for Dark One Emma, and Green for Wicked Zelena.
This was a great episode! You made some great points in First Thoughts. This episode would have been better for the second hour he other weekend. It looks like the next episode is going to be intense. Here are some of my favorite quotes: “We save each other. That is what our family does.”- Snow, “Fine you’re being stupid, so stop it!”-Regina, “Once you go green you never go queen.”-Zelena, Regina saying Henry made her best self., “I have spent too many yours trying to mend your heart. Now I need to protect mine.”- Belle
Snow: “Emma we love you.”, Emma “You don’t trust me.”, Charming “We don’t trust the darkness.”

from Florida


From Trace

Hi Colleen and Jeff…hope I’m not too late.

First, Brad’s emails made me laugh so hard last week, thank you! Relationships surely took a hit this episode. Though my Rumbelle heart took a shot, I don’t believe it’s over…quite yet. Belle did what she needed to do…she chose herself for once, and if there is any chance for these two, she needs to make peace with herself and the years she was hurt. As much as Rumple has changed, his turn seemed fast to him, but to her-it’s been years of mental abuse. Then again, was that even Belle? Evil Hook could be trying to get to Rump. Can never tell anymore for sure. And, ohhh Hook. He was right, he cannot fight the darkness at all. Here are my thoughts on Broken Heart.

I think maybe they haven’t named the baby because they are waiting for a hero to name her after? …perhaps her mother will come through in the end and sacrifice herself for her daughter and they will name her Zelena…? I really am so over this baby storyline, it was no unnecessary and I feel is dragging down their story-which is why it has to mean something big or why even do it! Loopholes…why again did it take almost 200 years and total depotchery by Rump to find a portal to Bae…he had the way the whole time? Nimuwe has been in his head, he went to Camelot even-I feel like the whole story is starting to mean nothing. I can’t believe Merlin is dead! RIP Merlin. There goes my theory that he was Lillys father…if we even go back to that story. No one is ever really dead in this show except Neil, and we do have that ale to chat with people in the underworld-so maybe we’ll see Merlin again. Nimue admitted she loved Merlin, that has to mean something right? It’s the second time they made a point about that. Hook is a great Dark One…super sexy and super evil. His crazy eyes and tussled hair…ahhhh-let’s just take a moment here Colleen…………ok, moving on. I had hoped for a Bonnie and Clyde Captian Swan style, but knowing that Emma is really still good and can fight the darkness was even better, I love Rumple getting his moment, even though he lost Belle for now, and that he really didn’t win-the dark one always has a back door motive, just needed his blood. Or…what if Hook is pulling an Emma and trying to beat the darkness with a plan of his own…I mean he could have killed Rumple sooo easy and he knew they needed Nimuwe to help them and he did get her there, so maybe he’s pulling a bait and switch of his own…? And they both just left the sword there? Ok, Back to Belle…I actually feel like she led Rumple on a bit. She had her moment when she pushed him over the town line…she’s been waiting at his side, and even carried that giant rose around-then when he finally became the man she had been wanting-she’s like naaah, I’ll just move on now. I’m a bit tired of the on again off again, but do hope they find a good healthy way to be together-let’s just hope this doesn’t send Rumple toward wanting the darkness back again! The underworld is about to descend on Storybrooke. I don’t believe we are going there, I think its coming to us…I think everyone’s coming through that portal, remember everyone, in mythology the underworld is not Hell, all people that die go to the underworld-so not just evil is coming…

I can’t wait for Sunday!!! Wow, this went so fast-Big love to you both and all the oncers! TTYS, Trace


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Broken Heart Review – First Thoughts – 307




Broken Heart Review

First Thoughts

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Birth and The Bear King Analysis – Main Show – 306





Birth and The Bear King Analysis

Main Show

Episode Number: 306

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Broken Heart – tomorrow 11/29

Swan Song – 12/6

Winter hiatus

Souls of the Departed – 3/6


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From Gabe

Well, I’m sad!! :’-(. As the rock trolls say “people make bad choices when they’re mad or scared or stressed.” I’m truly amazed at these writers and their ability to surprise this somewhat jaded viewer (watching 11 seasons of Supernatural can do that!). My first thoughts on this episode are basically DUDE, OMG, WHAT?!?!?! and AWESOME!!! I can’t believe you guys got the podcast up so quickly, I hope they didn’t kill off Merlin, we just got him!! I want him to continue on the show. Anyways, look forward to listening to your first thoughts and later analysis. It was interesting how the dark one and Merlin (I’ll call him the light one) can accomplish so much together. It makes me think of how often times in life we have to work for and listen to people we either really don’t see eye to eye with, or we just don’t like. This episode is also a testament to letting go of those you love and learning to live with loss, especially when the other only wants the best for you. It’s a little bit similar to what I imagine parenting to be: as a parent you want only the best for your children, the worst thing a child can do is sacrifice his or her own life for their parents, that’s not how it’s supposed to happen. Any parent would give their lives for their children’s happiness (Charming’s mother for example in one of the most beautiful moments in the series). Sorry this went on so long and I hope it’s not too hard to read. Ciao y’all

Nashville, TN


From Nicola

Hi Jeff and Colleen,

Firstly, I just want to thank you both for your twice weekly podcasts. I only started really listening to them recently and really enjoy them; they help make the working day go a lot faster! This is also the first time I have emailed you guys (though I have tweeted/re-tweeted you a few times under the handle @alomostanangel) so please forgive me if I ramble on a bit.

Well, what can I say about this episode?! I really enjoyed watching it – even if it was before I left for work so had to ensure my emotions remained in check to avoid any awkwardness when walking into the office! I think we all knew that everything Emma was doing was for Killian/Hook but the way in which it was confirmed was amazing. I also had a feeling that the dreamcatcher that Emma was seen clutching and crying over a couple of weeks ago was actually Killian’s and that by having Regina and Killian finding Henry’s was a red herring.

Collen was right in first thoughts – Emma stabbing Excalibur in the ground froze Snow, Charming, Regina et al so they couldn’t go into the house to stop her killing Zelena.

I’m not going to go too much into the episode, just really wanted to focus on the twist/big reveal of Emma turning Killian into a dark one. I completely understand Emma’s decision to save Killian’s life no matter what and some of what she said reminded me of the following scene from ‘Rocky Road’ (S4E3):

Killian: “Swan; don’t make a man drink alone”
Emma: “Not in the mood for a drink. Or a man”
Killian: “Sorry I didn’t listen to you today. Right, I know you feel like you’ve got the weight of the world on your shoulders but at some point, even though we’re quite different, you’ve got to trust me”
Emma: “That’s what you think this is about? That I don’t trust you?”
Killian: “Is that not what it’s about?”
Emma: “Of course I trust you”
Killian: “Then why do you keep pulling away from me?”
Emma: “Because everyone I’ve ever been with is dead! Neal, Graham; even Walsh. I lost everyone. I can’t lose you too.”
Killian: “My love, you don’t have to worry about me. There’s one thing I’m good at; surviving”

I can see Emma’s reasoning behind her actions. She’s only just really fully accepting how she feels towards him and being very open about it only to have him cruelly taken away; and her justification to the group was right too – they all would have done anything and everything they could (and in some cases they have done all they could) to save their loved one. Yes, there may well have been another way to save Killian without him becoming a dark one, and yes, she was selfish in her actions; but in Emma’s mind, after losing every man she loved/had romantic feelings for (and to be honest, she didn’t really fight as hard for their lives as she has for Killian’s), she was not going to lose the man she loves with her whole being.

I did wonder though why she had to tether his life to Excaliber though? Why could they not have taken his heart out and put him in a coma similar to the one Gold was in to buy them time to work out a way of saving him? Just a thought but there is probably a logical explanation; plus it wouldn’t have as much as a dramatic impact as this twist.

I did not see this twist coming though so kudos to everyone who works on the show for managing to keep that twist under wraps!! I am looking forward to seeing where they take this story arc and how it will all play out. Most of all, I am hoping that Captain Swan manage to fight this together!!

Anyway that is all I have to say. Thank you again for the podcasts; I do enjoy listening and find myself wishing I could join in with your conversations!

Big love to you and all the OUAT listeners out there,

Nicola :)


From Amber

Hello Lady, Colleen, and Jeff (sorry guys…lady’s first) *;) winking

My name is Amber and this is my first time writing you. I first want to congratulate you on 300 episodes….I hope for another 300!!! I found your podcast back at the beginning of OUAT season 2, but for whatever reason never listened to my downloaded episodes until the end of season 4 when I had no internet (for yours and other podcasts I wanted to try). I quickly narrowed down the podcasts I was listening to to just listening to yours. During the summer hiatus, I made it through the long months of waiting for season 5 by catching up with your past episodes. I love your comments, insights, theories, and research you add to make yours stand out from the multiples of OUAT fan podcasts. I’m also a huge fan of many of the same: Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Pirates of the Caribbean, Back to the Future, and most of the hidden Easter eggs scattered throughout the show.
Like you, I came into OUAT on the Lost ship and was hooked before the first episode aired. All I knew about the show was Adam and Eddie from Lost, producing a fairy-tale show, with Ginnifer Goodwin (who is just absolutely lovable) playing Snow White. That was all I needed to know. When the show premiered, I quickly fell in love with the other actors and characters on the show. I love the character development and flashbacks, and constant anticipation for what’s going to happen next.
When the season 5 premier was on the horizon, I found myself with no television and an extremely limited amount of internet access(I know, AAAACK!!!), and was going crazy with the thought of missing my favorite show. I finally made the decision that I was going to download and listen to your podcasts without having watched the show first! *Gasp* Yes, I’m forgoing some of the spoilers because not knowing anything was more torturous than losing the fresh eyes I would have without first listening to your reviews and insights. Honestly, I’m still keeping some of the mystery (I only have your podcasts through 300) and don’t plan on downloading any more until I can catch up with the OUAT episodes, and I’m really looking forward to joining the conversations once I have my home internet up and running!!
Anyway, congratulations to you again, and Big Love to you and all the other Oncers….talk to you again soon when I have the chance to catch up!

Amber Moon


From Kathy

Hi Colleen and Jeff,

Please disregard my earlier email. I not only left out a couple points, but there were also typos.

I also was expecting two back to back episodes that tied together. The second hour while entertaining left me hanging. I did enjoy how they brought Mulan back into the fold and seeing Ruby is always a wonderful thing. I hope they both stay at least for awhile. Longer would be better.

My initial thoughts watching Birth: OMG OMG OMG and NO!!!! What a great episode.

Questions I now have:

If becoming a dark one is thrust upon you and not chosen how does it manifest itself? Killian had no idea he was a Dark One. Dark Ones don’t sleep, has Killian not been sleeping? Does he have magic and not know it?

Two dark ones? Or two sorta dark ones? How is this going to be resolved?

Emma’s transformation by embracing the dark when she “saved” Killian finally explains why she now looks as she does. How dark is she really though? She said her plan was to destroy the darkness so she can’t be all bad. But would she really kill Zelena?

How long will Regina, Snow and David stay frozen outside Emma’s house? Will Regina be able to step in and either stop Zelena from doing something terrible or help Emma and Killian in some way?

How will the others now react towards Killian?

Where is Lancelot? Seems he was locked up in Camelot, was he brought to Storybrooke as well?

What has happened to Merlin? When he was tethered to the sword, did some dark enter him? He doesn’t seems dark. Black tendrils certainly were pulled out of him by Emma.

Random thoughts:

Killian seems pretty angry so I am wondering what he means by taking care of her (Emma) first. His last few words were chilling. I hope he is trying to still help her while throwing Zelena off his plan.

A smoldering Killian is pretty hot!

Regina’s red velvet gown is absolutely gorgeous. And I loved her line “No one hurts my sister, except me!”.

I love Zelena. She is so unabashedly evil. I was convinced she would renege on her deal with Killian.

I thought the dwarves were going to have more of a role in this story and I’m disappointed that hasn’t happened.

I loved seeing Dr. Whale again and the dialogue about his hair was hilarious!

I could go on for pages, but will stop here. I am feeling a lot of angst over this.

Thanks for your terrific podcasts. It’s the best start to my week, every week.

Take care.


From Brad – Birth

Greetings Jeff and Colleen,
before you flip any tables over the issues in this episode, here’s the things I learned this week, in Birth.

#1. What could be better than
having an intimate date night
with your wife? Sharing it
with a friend of course!

#2. Killian Jones can be lead
detective in the spinoff
series, CSI: Storybrooke.

#3. Every movie expert knows,
it’s always the wayward
pupil that turns on you in
the end.

#4. Trusting Zelena to keep her
word is like trusting a
Charming to keep a secret.

#5. “Mommies with Magic”
should be a self help
Storybrooke blog.

#6. Onion rings can reduce
the amount of pregnancy

#7. Snow may be developing a
fetish for strangulation.

#8. Hook has a very sad taste in

#9. Just because you’re a
zombie Doctor, doesn’t mean
you can’t deliver babies.

#10. Emma used the old spring
loaded snakes trick with
the flame of prometheus.


Is it possible that Hook unknowingly used Dark One magic to cut off Zelena’s cuff?

Why is Hook able to control his darkness when he doesn’t realize he’s a Dark One but as soon as he sees the vision he immediately turns dark? When Emma came through the vault she saw the vision of Rumple right away, why didn’t Hook see any visions in Storybrooke? Is it because he is the first one in a new chain of dark ones?


#1. On the side, Jeff specializes
in relaxation techniques for
Once Upon A Time stress

#2. Permission was granted,
tweet Adam about your
barking dogs.

#3. Once Upon A Time is so
Jerry Springer.

#4. The three magic words that
Colleen loves to hear are,
Jeff was wrong……at least
in his mind.

#5. An enchanted hook does
what it wants.

To Be Continued……………


From Brad – The Bear King

Welcome to part two, which is not a continuation of my first email but a completely different one entirely! This email is actually two years after the third season and not two years before. That would make this the first season, which it is not. Two years before that, the show wasn’t even on the air. So lets fast forward 5 years into the future and then one year back but only five days after this episode premiered. Makes sense? Good. Now onto the things I leaned this week in the episode, The Bear King.

#1. Unless you want to learn
sign language, don’t ever
disrespect a man’s

#2. There’s nothing more
stressful than a witch with
an IOU.

#3. When all else fails, there’s
always squid ink.

#4. After picking a fight with
Mulan, is the perfect time to
do your impression of
Luke Skywalker losing his

#5. Someone needs to sew
those clansmen some

#6. When an attractive
wearwolf pounces on you,
you can take solace in the
fact that at least you’ll die

#7. Dudes! Ole Tiny’s probably
trapped in a maze of bean
fields right about now.

#8. Never play 20 questions
with Mulan.

#9. Eating your boyfriend
disqualifies you from giving
dating advice.

#10. With the right kind of
ale, you can talk to the dead.


I really wish they would have shown us the scene with Ruby and Snow awhile back instead of trying to make up for it after the fact. At least they realized they needed to give us some type of explanation instead of pretending she’s been there the whole time, as they’ve done many times with other characters.


#1. A parody inspired by
Colleen’s rant called “Two
Years From What” should
be created and sent to
Adam and Eddy.

#2. Jeff likes to rename the
episodes with his own

#3. Colleen is getting really
tired of the ding dang
flash backs, flash forwards,
flash drives and flash

#4. Calling a helmet a helm, is

#5. Rip Van Winkle does

That’s all for this week. Sending you both big love and wishing you a happy Thanksgiving. We have so much to be thankful for. See you in two weeks.




From Trace

Hi Colleen and Jeff,

Hope it’s not too late-what a crazy busy week! I went into the episodes knowing these were separate episodes back to back, so it wasn’t so bad of a transition for me. But I can see how that would throw you off when the second one got underway. The ADD in me just loved these episodes!!! Here, there and everywhere. So many shiny things to distract and keep my crazy brain busy. These are definitely ones to rewatch and take it all in. I think there would be way less negative fandom if these episodes weren’t back to back…ok, and if they could keep track of the time a bit better. I actually liked them both a lot….I know-really? Yes, there are a lot of head scratchers, but I still liked them anyway. Being right does feel good Colleen. Here are my thoughts on Birth.

I knew Emma was up to something, just didn’t know what it was, and never imagined this at all! I saw the screen shot of Hooks name on the sword too Jeff, but didn’t know what the heck it meant. Ok, honestly though, if all it takes to not be the dark one is to forget that you are one, then problem solved…really?? Regina could have just wiped Emma’s memories of ever sacrificing herself to be the dark one as soon as they got to Camelot, find a way home and done. Too easy. I honestly am still trying to figure out the whole tethered to the sword rules and dark one rules…was Merlin a dark one when he got tethered, how come he didn’t rise up out of the vault? And her not being able to give up the darkness because she didn’t want to move in with Hook? I know…it’s the ‘Commitment”, but I still think it was “lame, lame, lame” to quote another Disney villain. Wow Hook, didn’t take ya long to turn dark. One second you’d do anything for Emma, next second you join Zelena and go dark? Amazing will power there sir, I wanted to punch him in his way to sexy face. Then again, being turned into the thing you hate most after you begged to be let go would tick me off too. I would have done the same thing tho-watching another true love die in my arms…ugh-too much. And what spell was that she did with the sword? A protection spell? Die she give them their memories back? I loved the magic fight and even more that she got Merlin to fight the darkness as he had helped her. Who has to pay for the magic she used to save Hook…is the Fury on the way? Ok, off my soap box because I did like the episode just had a lot of hmmmms. Arthur is just annoying now. He’s such a big baby. I know it’s wrong, but I can’t wait for Lancelot to show up and plant one on Guinevere and break that pink eye spell-she deserves better! Zelena is comic wicked goodness. She’s worth being back just for how snarky she is. I groaned out loud though with the accelerated baby story-though I’m glad we don’t have a whole season of her pregnancy. She seemed happier being evil, and not in a hurry, I mean I would have poofed back to my baby the minute I was free!!

Things that made me go hmmmm…I already jumped down off my soap box so no more hmmmms for today.

Big Love Oncers! Take the week off to re-watch everyone. Watch them as too completely separate episodes, and I think some of the angst will soften. It was a great episode as a standalone and season one did this all the time and we loved it. Talk to you all next week about the Bear and the Bow, and the trio of feminine greatness…go Mulredia! Trace


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