The multi-plane filming made you feel that you were crawling into these beautiful backgrounds.
For a Disney “Family-friendly” film, there were many scary and violent parts to it.
Opening with the Evil Queen section was a bold story choice, instead of the subject of the film.
The animal and dwarf animation and jokes were so perfect.
Snow White’s goodness balanced the Evil Queen’s evil, and yet they lived in the same castle.
The story showed the Evil Queen’s 2 attempts at ending Snow White’s life. We get the whole story, and not just a linear story.
The emotion of the Huntsman and Snow White scene was perfect relayed.
Part of the film was a time capsule of a time when you could have fun; cleaning a house, making a pie and singing and dancing together. You didn’t need things, you just need to be together.
Once Upon a Time connections –
A Magical Book opens the film and the text “Once Upon a Time” started it all.
The huntsman scene with Snow White was very similar.
We were guests on the Greetings from Storybrooke Season 3 wrap up:
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Maii
in the terms of the musical episode.. Colin was in a band called the enemies so that’s another one =)
Plus Jane Epenson worked on BTVS which has the best musical ep of all time so it would be done right
April
does anyone else think that Neal might come back now that Prince Neal’s name has been revealed?
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Aubrey
Okay so just three things really bugged me about this episode. I really don’t like that they brought back Robin’s wife. I totally get that Regina will go through some kind of trial because love isn’t easy but this just makes it feel really awkward. It’s almost like they were running out of ideas so they decided to do this. Also I don’t like how they changed the past. I thought that the pilot was so unique and it just hooked me the first time I watched it but now it just feels wrong. And finally, Frozen. This is what mainly is making me upset. Frozen hasn’t been out for a whole year yet; yet they are using it? I feel like the show has “jumped the shark” This is my favorite show of all time and I just hope they are careful. On a happier note, Prince Neal. No words. Just perfection.
Aubrey
What if the new realm we visit in season four is Camelot and Snow and Charming name their son Arthur and he becomes King Arthur?
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Maii
Okay so my email was getting long so I knew I had to put my thoughts on that final CS scene elsewhere
J- The Hero, and the No Longer Lost Girl and the Price.
Reminder of Season 3 Promo posters
Believe that a pirate can be a hero
Believe that a lost girl can find her way home
Those 2 where culminated in that scene, he’s her hero, he’s a hero and most importantly he’s her home and she is his. Those lost souls the abandoned lost boy and the lost girl neither had a good life but now they’ve found a home in each other.
She thanks him for coming back to NY and then she asks him how he did it and he tells her how he outran the curse (I’m one hell of a captain) I was all for her finding out and when it happened I literally texted Lexi IT’S HAPPENING and I’m so glad they did the reveal after Emma realized what home to her was.
Killian: They are if you’ve got something of value to trade
Emma: and what was that?
Killian: Why the Jolly Roger of course
Emma: You traded your ship for me?
Killian: Aye
This scene is so meaningful and my favorite in the entire 2 hrs of the finale. Because Killian Jones is not one to admit it when he does things right (remember back in good form?) and this time he admits it knowing he can’t deny anything anymore. It wasn’t just his life it was his home it’s where the last memories of Milah and Liam are.. and he traded it all for her. And the look on her face, this is a person who’s not used to people putting her first and there’s this infuriating man who not only puts her first but he doesn’t run away from her when she pushes him away and he always comes back to her. He traded his home so that he could bring her home. That’s the moment her walls completely fall down at his feet. It’s such a beautiful moment and I’m still not over it.
The kiss in Neverland focuses on Killian’s expressions bc this is the moment he realizes he’s falling for her but in this kiss the camera focuses on Emma’s face. This is the moment she realizes she’s found her home.
The reason there aren’t enough words to describe this kiss is because of how immaculate it truly is. It was about coming home to each other and accepting that no matter what life throws at them they’ve got someone to perpetually lean on, to grow with, and to challenge themselves with.
In the beginning of the season we saw Captain Jones stealing the Jolly Roger because of the lost of the most important person in his life (Liam) and now we saw him trading the Jolly Roger to get back to the most important person in his life (Emma)
When we met, I wasn’t just unloved and unloving. I was an enemy of love. Love had only brought me pain. My walls were up, but you brought them down. You brought me home.
This is so beautiful because it fits both of them so well because they were both enemies of love. Emma because of the pain Neal had left her in and Killian because of losing Milah and later Emma (Love brings nothing but wasted years and endless torment – The Jolly Roger).. Love had only brought them pain whether it was by losing who they loved or be being betrayed by them. Both of their walls were up in the sky and yet both of them brought them down. Killian brought down Emma’s walls just like Emma brought down Hook’s. From the first moment they met, they felt the connection and here it was made real. There was no running away and it was beautiful.
Plus their smiles, their smiles say it all.. When was the last time we saw either of them that happy? I don’t quite remember.. But the joy in their faces is there and they are both smiling as they pull away and yet they go back to kissing because now that the line has been crossed they don’t want to stop. For two people (mostly Emma) not big on PDA they are making out in front of Granny’s and yet they don’t care bc they have each other and that’s all they need.
Both of them were lost and found a home with each other, because there’s no place like home… *I’m not crying, you’re crying* ok yes I still cry every time I see this scene and I might have cried writing this..they’ve come such a long way and for someone who’s loved them since before they met (I thought they were going to be a crackship and started shipping them since before the crocodile aired) this is quite the pay off..
Hope you guys are having a lovely week!
Evil Panda
Hello Jeff and Colleen first of all, I wanted to say that I love your podcast and your inputs on each episode and secondly, I would like to apologize in advance for this long email. So you could summarize it if you want. Lol. I loved the episode and the surprise ending (assuming that person in the surprise ending is who the majority of the fans think she is) but hated the not so surprising ending with Regina.
I have two things that I wanted to get both of your opinions on. Maybe it’s just because I’ve been Team Regina since season 1, but was I the only one that was wondering why Hook was giving Emma credit for everything that happened before the finale?
I mean if you think about it, Regina and Rumpel did most of the heavy lifting. Regina was the one who saved Henry in Neverland, saved the town from Pans Curse, broke Zelenas/Snowings Curse, and stopped her.
And Rumpel was the one who killed both Pan and Zelena. All Emma really did was bring Henry back into town.
Have Regina and Rumpel become the Iron Man and Hulk to Emma’s Captain America?
Lol. Also, did you catch the part where Snow mentioned Cora and Daniel during her scene with Regina? It sounded like Snow might’ve known about Cora killing Daniel, but I thought that Snow technically didn’t even know truth about what happened to Daniel until Regina tells her later in the timeline in An Apple Red as Blood?
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Amy
I’m one of the odd ones that is excited about the season 4 being Frozen, but i do not think it will be frozen as we know it. Frozen was very loosely based on a fairy tale titled the Ice Queen and I think they will likely use more from that. That way they can use the name recognition from Frozen to draw in new viewers and still have a morally grey “Elsa” without making Disney’s Elsa evil. I’m sure they will have a lot of Disney Frozen jokes (like they did with Ariel) but i think/hope that’s about as far as they go with it.
Love the show,
Amy
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Lorie
I haven’t emailed yet this season, but I have been listening. I liked this season so much better than last season in Neverland. However, I was so disappointed with the ending. I knew changing the fate of the woman in the jail was a bad idea, but I never expected that it would be Maid Marion. I was so happy for Regina. Finally found her happy ending and a new love of her life. Then for it to end that way. I just wanted to scream. I already hate Marion on about the same level that Coleen hated Tamara in the Neverland season. I just want her gone. Also, from the scenes in the jail and forest, she did not seems as if she was a character that I liked very well. I don’t know what it was about her, but I just did not like her.
At the end when Regina confronted Emma and said lets just hope that’s all you brought back, my first thought was that she was implying that Emma needs to hope that by bringing Marion back and causing her to lose Robin, that this does not bring back the Evil Queen. So that statement may have had a double meaning.
As to what/who Emma did bring back, I was trying to think of Evil sorceresses/witches/etc who would be associated with ice. It was mentioned that when Glinda was banished north and they went through the door, it looked like a Narnia reference. Wonder if this is the queen from that land.
I tried to think of fairy tale lands. We have done enchanted forest, neverland, and oz. I don’t think we will have Wonderland and Agraba since they did that in the Once Upon a Time in Wonderland series. So Narnia seems to be a good land to go to. I don’t know if they will go the Frozen angel as this is a relatively new show and not everyone will be familiar with that story. I think they will stick more to the tried and true stories that are older and most people will have knowledge of.
Cant wait for next season,
Lorie
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Lorie
Well I just looked it up and I guess we are going to get Frozen for season 4. Will be a new experience for me and my friends that watch this as none of us have seen Frozen.
Coleen, we need a hiatus update-since you have seen Frozen, give us a quick podcast rundown of the story. Just an idea.
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Maii
Hellooo guys! How are you? The joy of this finale (and the fact that I had my last wk of school for the rest of my life..no more credits left to do, college is over! finally..)
This was my favorite ep of the finale it was gorgeous and it was perfect and I literally could not breathe after it and I think I’ve watched it more times than I can count (prob more than is healthy oh well).. and seriously my voice was this high pitch mess for like half an hr after it ended and I thought it was hilarious (well my bff lexi thought it was hilarious bc I was sending her voice recordings in whatsapp) bc I literally couldn’t form words and I just kept rocking back and forth.
I loved killian’s inclusion in the scenes.. “My Princess” I died I won’t lie.
“My princess” — this wasn’t a necessary statement that’d served the plot as he could’ve said something along the lines of Princess Leia or someone I know. But the importance of saying my princess shows that she’s just that to Killian. Since the moment they’ve met he’s been captivated by every part of her being, the orphan, the pirate, the badass, the savior, and even the inner princess she’s never felt she was. He’s seen it all, welcomed and adored it all. And to him, this very moment was his way of not showing possession but illuminating the utmost pride he has in merely knowing her.
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Captain Charming
I loved this scene so much and I need them to touch back on this conversation later.
“I’d go to the ends of the world for her, or time” and Charming giving him his blessing unknowingly and Killian’s “I hope you remember that”
At the end of the day, Killian’s the only man Charming’s ever formed a bond with — the only man he’s gotten to know outside of the dwarves and townspeople. The conversations that they’ve shared are things he hasn’t had with anyone else, and the significance behind the reasoning is that Killian’s essentially Emma’s true love. And while no one will ever be good enough for his baby girl, Killian’s the only man whose heart he knows. Even though he didn’t know in the moment, what man wouldn’t appreciate another for declaring that he’d go to the ends of the world and time for a woman he loves. It also served to demonstrate that no matter where or how the two men meet, they’re bound to form a friendship because of how similar they are.
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The rescue scene was perfect because it reminded us that while Emma can save herself, Killian will always come back for her.
Their reactions were perfect like Swan what are you doing, you’re making me look bad in front of my mate.
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Snow gets “burned” at the stake
All of Emma’s life, every battle, hardship, moment she needed a shoulder to cry on, no one was there. Not until now.
Emma is about to watch her own Mother burn at the stake, right in front of her eyes. When Killian figures out what is about to happen, he immediately grabs her and pulls her in close to him. Not slow, not cautiously, but instinctively, protectively and quick. She’s about to experience the hardest, heart wrenching moment in her life, and all he can do is hold her. It’s protective, it’s his instinct. He loves her so much, and when he sees what’s about to happen, he holds her as tight as he can, not to let her know things are gonna be okay, but to let her know she is NOT going through this one alone, that he is right there, right beside her, holding her. His heart is breaking for her, but he’s not gonna let her fall. When she breaks, he will be right there to hold her together. It’s just truly a very beautiful moment. I cry.
and then later in the woods the scene continues to be beautiful
How beautiful is it that Killian didn’t even think twice before opening up his old wounds to comfort her and make sure she doesn’t give into darkness? A man who brushed off the death of his brother, when she asked him to open up about it and talk to her. These two literally kill me and Colin/Jen were so beautiful with their expressions.
There is so much sincerity with the way Killian is comforting her and there is so much gratitude in Emma’s eyes towards Killian for just being there and trying…even know they both know nothing would make her feel better.
When Snow didn’t recognize her Killian went to her and wiped her tears and it was a truly beautiful moment
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Emma seeing Snowing falling in love
“It’s okay Swan not everyone gets the chance to watch their parents fall in love”
This moment right here is so important. This is the moment that Emma Swan, a woman who has been abandoned and betrayed countless time in her life, realizes how much she cares for Killian Jones. She’s just witnessed her parents falling in love and that raw, undeniable emotion has awoken her senses. You can see in the way that she looks at him, shyly glancing at him to gauge his reaction to the scene unfolding in front of them. She has just realized that the man standing next to her has never once let her down. From the moment they met they had a connection and since then he’s unfailingly been by her side – supporting her, encouraging her, believing in her when she didn’t even believe in herself. He’s made his feelings known to her on several occasions but never until now did she fully accept that those feelings were mutual. This man quite literally crossed through realms and time to be with her and that scares the hell out of her – you can see in her eyes that she’s terrified to open herself up to someone else for fear of being hurt yet again. But also there, behind the fear, is hope. Because for the first time in a very long time she just knows that she has someone – someone who would do everything and more for her; someone who would never let her down; someone who, if she allowed him to, would be her home. And for Emma Swan, a woman who has been searching tirelessly for a place to call home from the moment she was brought into this world, that is everything. Her eyes are completely full of awe and adoration in this shot, all directed at him, as she finally accepts that she is in love with Killian Jones: the man, the pirate, the hero.
We are told that true love is powerful enough to transcend realms and break any curse. But for Emma Swan, the power of her parents’ true love is able to show her that she, herself, is capable of love and how happy it could make her. And I think that’s beautiful.
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Using a quote from a review from “http://mgcircles.com/post/85548221326/once-upon-a-time-3×21-snow-drifts-and-3×22-theres” to describe this scene
When it comes to Jennifer Morrison’s portrayal of Emma, there are not enough words to describe the amount of emotions she’s able to inflict upon the viewers through her realistically passionate depictions. By her portrayal Morrison’s made Emma the kind of character that no matter the occasion, whether happy or sad, when she cries, we cry. Morrison’s delivery of the lines above were masterful – the childlike innocence and loneliness she projected through the expressions that justified her words broke her free from the chains in her past as she chose to fight for the people she loves most. And what also made the scene profoundly gorgeous, was the wondrously poignant smile she wore when Emma notices Killian’s pride in her. This was the moment where Emma truly saw just how proud he is of exactly who she is, and it’s the moment where she begins to see herself as he does. O’Donoghue has always brought forth Killian’s utmost sincerity to life remarkably as his portrayal has allowed the audience to feel Killian’s unwavering love and support for Emma.
Her magic came back because she finally accepted who she was and it was beautiful and the proud and joyous look on Killian’s face when he tells her to look down and see the wand is priceless.
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I don’t know why Neal because honestly Snowing didn’t know him at all, they shared at most 2 scenes and it’s a bit weird to name your son after your daughter’s ex boyfriend is kinda weird and creepy, I would have preferred Graham or something else but it was still better than the alternative.
Although I am laughing at the fact that if Emma is Leia and Killian is Han does that make Neal, Luke…because he is technically her brother now?
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Outlaw Queen
Guys this is actually a good thing! I’ve been saying this since OQ got together it was too fast too easy I knew the angst was coming. Every other couple has had to face obstacles, Rumbelle, Snowing, Captain Swan has had troubles since they met back in early season 2 it was obvious they would get angst too.. “True love isn’t easy but it must be fought for” “the course of true love never did run smooth”. This is giving them both a chance to prove their love can withstand the obstacles and it will be beautiful.
Emma saved an innocent woman from a probably horrible death.. She didn’t save her bc she’s the savior but bc she’s her parents daughter she’s a good person who would never leave an innocent to die. I have faith in Regina, she’s going to realize that Emma did the right thing and hell she didn’t throw a fireball at her or anything! Progress!
This is the same as MM/David/Kathryn.. Robin is the one that will need to make a choice and we’ll get development on his part. We’ll get to see if Regina’s redemption is true or just a smoke screen. Regina had MURDERED Marian, her boyfriend’s first wife…That was going to come up eventually and I don’t think OQ could get through that.
Robin going to her when he saw her was a normal reaction, he thought she was dead for 30 years, Roland saw his mother again their reaction was perfectly understandable .. And they spent the entire season
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The scene with the charmings is so beautiful bc one year later (technically 2 bc of lost yr) and she’s finally calling them mom and dad and I was just like blown away by the emotions…
Once she was home, with her son, with her parents, with her family, Emma was still missing Hook in the dinner, that she looked back and saw, someone is missing.
You never know it’s home until you miss it, and she felt his absence, more than once during the different episodes, and in this one, she felt his absence next to her, she missed him.
He’s her home.
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Emma meta
http://emmaducklingswan.tumblr.com/post/85557099409/the-beautiful-swan-an-emma-swan-meta
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I’m not much of a rumbelle fan both their vows destroyed me, and they fit each of their couples so well.. these are OUATs endgame couples. It was such a beautiful moment and the score by Mark Isham was breathtaking (Called True Love’s Theme)
Sometimes the best book has the dustiest jacket and sometimes the best tea cup is chipped..
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As always lovely hearing you guys!
Love, Maii
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Chuck
Ahoy Jeff, Colleen, and Lady
The season finale was great.
It’s great to see that Emma finally feels she has a home – what a long journey to get to this point. Regina has also been on a long journey, and appears (up until the last 5 minutes of the show) had everything she wanted, family and love. But of course, we need drama, so why not throw a monkey wrench into Regina’s happy ending by bringing Robin’s wife into the story! Poor Regina. I really can’t see Regina slipping back into her old evil ways. So it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Emma appears happy now, as she has a home, a family, is in the book, and has her man (Hook). It was nice to see her smiling at the end. It doesn’t seem she gets to do that much.
I was thinking about season three overall, and I still believe the #1 biggest moment/reveal had to be the scene where Malcolm transforms into his younger self and is revealed to be Peter Pan, as poor little Rumple watches on. Wow, that was heart wrenching and a huge surprise. My favorite Regina quip of the season: “and what, you’ll win her over with your rainbow kisses and unicorn stickers”. Classic Regina, and I couldn’t image anyone else delivering that line other than Lana.
Season four is looking to be really “cool”.
Summer’s almost here, so put your toes in the sand, kick back, and enjoy some cocktails, or pirate rum, with good friends.
Cheers,
Chuck
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Hello Jeff & Colleen,
I believe Adam and Eddie used their own version of “follow the lady” mis-direction on us in these final two episodes. I was totally focused on trying to figure out who the mystery woman Emma saved could be. I just assumed she was going to be vital in the story of whoever was going to be the next big bad to face our Storybrooke characters next season. So I never really paid much attention to the significance of the urn Hook picked up. In fact, even after viewing the episode a second time, I did not see that urn get pulled off the table and into the portal. When we got the shot of it laying in the dirt in the barn and popping open to release the liquid inside, I was definitely surprised that the apparent villain had nothing to do with the mystery lady. And even more so when I realized who the new character would be since I would never have guessed they would go with so recent a Disney character as Elsa. But it makes perfect sense for them to do so when they can capitalize on the current popularity of Frozen and possibly pull in more viewers & higher ratings for ONCE.
I had to laugh when you called the liquid blue character the “blue terminator” in your podcast because, frankly, that is exactly what it looked like to me as well. I assume that the CGI artists were trying to go for a look of water on the point of freezing, but I don’t think they quite succeeded.
After the episode aired, I finally watched Frozen. Hate to say it but I was underwhelmed by the movie’s music, the way the lead female characters were drawn and the fact there is no memorable evil villain. I could go on, but that’s for a different podcast. My main point is, in the movie, Elsa is not an evil character, just a sad, misunderstood girl who shuts herself off from her sister and the world. So, if Eddie and Adam are setting her up to be the next “big bad” to set foot in Storybrooke, are they going to put a different spin on her character to take her to the dark side as they did with Peter Pan? I would say from the way she ripped off those blue gloves and flicked out her hand with a spurt of ice she is none too happy so Storybrooke is in for a long cold & icy winter!
Note to Jeff: Not that I am pushing for a musical episode, but “Buffy, the Vampire Slayer” did a one to great effect.
Even though you said you were disappointed at the ending, Jeff, happy endings make for boring story-lines so they have to write conflicts and road-blocks for our characters in order to keep things exciting and us tuning in every week.
Finally, I really want to THANK YOU, Jeff and Colleen, for all of your efforts to put out such an enjoyable and entertaining podcast. Now-a-days, everyone leads very hectic lives so for you to make the time and the work to put out a twice-weekly podcast for us ONCE fans is VERY much appreciated!!! Your podcast adds so much to my enjoyment of the show. I do so look forward to hearing not only you, Jeff and Colleen, but also fans like Brad and Mye, who always have such thoughtful and humorous comments to add. THANK YOU! HAVE A WONDERFUL SUMMER!! And I am sure we will all be waiting in great anticipation for the next season of ONCE. (That’s such a long time for me to wait for my “Hook fix”!!!)
Your Captain/Swan-shipping podcast fan,
Marilyn
P.S. My first-mate, Max, sends his regards to Lady!
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Brad
Hello Jeff and Colleen, this is a bittersweet moment as we say goodbye to season 3. Here are the things I learned in the episode There’s No Place Like Home.
#1. It’s all about the tumblers baby!
#2. The caterers who were hired to
cook the mutton for the ball,
need to be fired.
#3. A man should never be deprived
of a dashing rescue.
#4. Don’t upset Snow while she’s
carrying small or sharp objects.
#5. The Blue Fairy is fluent in bug.
#6. Someone needs to make Marian
quietly disappear. Maybe Ashley
Boyd can help her out with that.
#7. It takes a hell of a captain to out
run a curse.
#8. Hitting a person in the head with
a log is the quickest way to end
a disagreement.
#9. Snow has been cursed,
poisoned, stabbed and set on
fire by Regina.
#10. Elsa doesn’t look like she’s in
Storybrooke to build a
snowman.
OBSERVATIONS:
Emma stated in Snow Drifts that she didn’t see herself in the book, only fairytales. It was awesome to see that by the end of There’s No Place Like Home, she actually found her place in the book, in more ways than one.
Hook has been in Storybrooke since season 2, yet he has no idea who Ruby is when confronted by her in the Enchanted Forest. He should’ve slipped up like Emma did when she saw Belle and Regina.
Regina says you better hope to hell you didn’t bring anything “else” back. Just a coincidence of words?
Speaking of Elsa, I believe that she will be a villain but not because she wants to be. She was trapped in Rumple’s vault which is where he kept the magic that was too dark and unpredictable. I don’t know about her being too dark but definitely unpredictable and misunderstood. If she lived a life of concealing her powers and hiding her feelings, then this may be the first time she is free. Now in the future, with no family, who can she trust? She may appear to be a villain, who is actually trying to protect herself. I’m looking forward to seeing how Frozen is woven in. I think it’s the perfect storyline for Once Upon A Time.
The wand that Cinderella’s Fairy Godmother had was the one taken by Robin in Lacey. It has also been
in many other scenes including Gold’s dream, when he used it to turn Henry into porcelain. However, it was not the wand given to Emma by Rumpel. This was actually the black fairy’s wand.
A lot of people think that having Marian in the jail cell was inconsistent with the story. They incorrectly believe that Marian died because of her sickness. What actually happened was, while Marian was pregnant, Robin stole a wand from Rumpel’s castle to heal her (This would be the wand from the episode, The Price of Gold) She delivers Rolan but somehow dies years later, which Robin says is his fault.
If you downloaded the episodes from Itunes, the opening card for Snow Drifts and There’s No Place Like Home both show Zelena’s time portal but the live version had a Swan title in between both episodes.
When I first saw Gold and Belle’s wedding I was so distracted by him lying to Belle that I looked right past the wedding and didn’t appreciate it at all. I was frustrated with him and thought the wedding was just a show. It wasn’t until I went back and watched it a second time that I realized their wedding vows were being visualized by each couple. The way Rumple and Belle looked at each other made me realize he really meant the words he said and may even be ashamed of what he has done. The vows, the beautiful music and happy couples would have been a perfect place to end the season but the show needed a “hook” to lead into season 4.
We all know that Michael Socha will be in season 4. My thoughts are that he may first appear in flashbacks to Robin’s backstory that bring him into the present.
I really liked Dave from Michigan’s theory on your Kansas podcast about how Emma would change something in the past and it would effect the future, such as Henry never being born or Graham still being alive. Rumpel called it the ripple effect. This is where a small change at one point can result in large differences in a later state. It was weird that after all the things they changed, everything was exactly the same when they got back. So in essence, there really was no ripple effect at all. It’s the one part of Back To The Future I really wish they had included because there were so many different ways they could’ve went with it.
I can’t see Robin leaving Marian but I also can’t see him just leaving Regina. Maybe we’ll finally get that love triangle we were cheated out of with Hook and Neal.
I thought the baby being named Neal was very appropriate. Neal saved the town and the baby’s life. This was a great way to honor him and make sure his ultimate sacrifice would never be forgotten.
THEORIES:
The fate of Maid Marian
#1. What if Zelena was somehow able to stay alive and was transported into Marian’s body. Seeing as how Regina ruined her plans, she may have went for the next best thing, sweet revenge.
#2. Neal told Emma that there are no
coincidences. Everything happens by design, and there’s nothing we can do about it because forces greater than us conspire to make it happen. Regina and Robin are soulmates and were supposed to be together before he met Marian. So whether it was fate or destiny, something caused Marian to lose her life so that Regina and Robin could be together. Now that the past has been changed, the forces that be, must put things back the way they are meant to happen. A flying monkey, a porcelain statue or being turned into a bug, all would suffice.
BURNING QUESTIONS:
Why did Robin need a second chance? Was this something that Marian will have a hard time forgiving him over?
We are led to believe that Regina killed Marian but wouldn’t Robin know that? How did Marian actually die and was Robin really to blame?
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Well Oncers we are back. Now that the season is over, let’s use our imagination to take us to a place that is full of fantasy, romance, and magic. Let’s visit Oncerland.
Read on and take this imaginary journey with me and don’t be afraid to add some other rides in the comments section.
The day has finally come and you are proud to say that you have earned every bit of the two week vacation that is coming to you because you know that you are going to Oncerland!
Included in your suitcase are;
1. Seasons 1-3 DVD/Blu Rays
2. Your favorite red lipstick (channeling your inner diva like Regina)
3. Snow White’s effortless day attire
4. Your red leather jacket
5. Tall boots
6. and finally black eyeliner
You close your suitcase and you are now ready to go. Of course you have rented a Cadillac so you drive like the original pimp with a limp.
Once you arrive in the park you immediately walk through the purple smoke machine and stop by the hot cocoa and cinnamon stick stand. After you finish your cocoa you visit a gift stand where you bypass the light up magic wands and purchase a Storybrooke “Once Upon A Time” photo album. Now you are ready to head for the rides.
You decide to work your way up to the most exciting rides so you choose to get on the chipped teacups. The chipped teacup spends you around through an obstacle course of brooms and buckets that are magically cleaning rumple’s office.
That was fun so next you head to the Volkswagen beetle racetrack. This is a race car track where you have to avoid popups of wolves and Storybrooke signs.
Next, you go to the Mad Hatter fun house. Once you enter the house you become extremely big and begin crouching to explore the house. Halfway through you become extremely small and finally at the end you meet Jefferson who you are happy to snap a picture with to add to your complimentary storybook.
Next you travel down Main Street where you walk into Geppetto’s Gift Shop. Then you hear the clock chime it is time for the town hall meeting.
You walk swiftly to the town hall where you take a seat in the back and wait for the show to happen. Emma and Regina battle it out and everyone Ooos and Awwws and of course you snap lots of pictures.
Next you walk to Mayor Mills Mansion for a tour hosted by Sidney Glass himself. At the end you are offered the opportunity to purchase all types of red apples and apple turnovers. You decide against them and participate in the non-poisonous apple eating contest. You lose, but you are happy because Prince Charming is there to make sure that any participants that happen to fall asleep are ok. You snap a picture with Charming before he runs off to meet Snow White for a picnic lunch near the troll bridge.
You decide you should have more than apples for lunch so you stop at Granny’s for lunch. Ruby is appropriately dressed because she is post curse and you order a burger and a root beer Afterwards you walk towards the back and take pictures with Granny’s crossbow.
Next you head to the laser tag dome called Dragon Destruction. Once inside you receive your gear and preview the scene from the show where Regina gives Emma instructions. You board the rickety Storybrooke Library elevator down to the basement and use your laser device to avoid the dragon’s fire, fall down the deep pits and at the right moment fire the laser sword into the dragon’s heart to retrieve the True Love potion.
Afterwards you decide to walk to Gold’s shop where you buy a pair of Emma’s glasses and head for tea with Mrs. Gold herself in the back of the shop. Of course you drink out of chipped tea cups as she tells you the story of their love. You snap a picture of Belle as you head to the Enchanted Forest.
Once in the enchanted forest you stand in line for nearly two hours to meet Rumplestilskin as you walk through his estate. Once you encounter him he asks “What would you like to know, Dearie?” and you ask “When does Season 4 start?” he replies “You will just have to wait for the writers of the book to reveal the mystery to all. Have a good day Dearie”. Mesmerized, you are escorted by a trained handler to stand and snap a picture with Rumple where you both smile. You are led into another room where you find out that this picture costs $20. Magic and photo ops come with a price, Dearie.
So… now you are tired and broke, but you enjoyed your day in Oncerland. You can’t wait to come back tomorrow.
What other rides or attractions would you include? Please be kind and family friendly. Thanks.
Happy #OUASeasonFinale day ( and Mother’s day of course)! Just want to his is my fav podcast ever…It’s been a fantastic season 3 and u both are a really part of that! Besides practicing my English, it’s very interesting to listen to new points of view and theories about my fav show ! im definately a fan ! Hope u have a blast watching the season finale ! xoxo from Brazil cant wait for the last 2 podcasts of the season !
Laura
Just finished watching the finale…wow, I am still in shock! The last 2 minutes….OMGosh. :-0
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Rick
If you do find out where one can get the dragonfly print please let us know as my wife want it as well. She loves it.
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Amy
I’m a newer fan of your podcast but i have quickly grown to love it, especially Colleen’s comments about Hook (I agree with her, his hair probably does feel soft as rabbit fur.)
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Maii
Hellooo.. I’m prob still crying over how perfect this entire finale was, some of the best tv I’ve seen in a long while.. I had the most high pitched voice for like 30-40 minutes after it ended, it was hilarious bc I couldn’t do words.. Anyways on to Snow Drifts!
Honestly I’m always in awe of the casting department how do they find these people? I do remember beta max hehehe ( I’m younger but my parents had some beta max tapes)
CS at Granny’s- Park –
The fact that Killian offers to go after Emma speaks incredibly loud for the duo — he offers to do so because he feels he’s someone she may listen to, additionally, as far as I can remember, Henry’s very rarely trusted someone with the book and if that doesn’t tell you about how much he too has grown to care for Killian then I don’t know what will.
Killian’s the kind of person who doesn’t need sugarcoating and because he and Emma are so kindred, he knows that she’s that way as well. He knows she needs to hear the cold hard truth, and what he manages to do in the midst of telling her she’s making a mistake, is uplifts her in the process. He makes sure she’s reminded of the greatness she’s capable of. No matter how many people have helped out, he’s always seen her as the best. She tells him she doesn’t feel like she belongs, because she doesn’t feel like she belongs in the fairytale stories and he reassures her as he always does.
“One of these days I’m going to stop chasing this woman” and that was perfect because we know he didn’t want to go near the barn and yet he goes bc he would never leave her alone. And then she falls and he doesn’t hesitate for a second to go after her bc he can’t imagine leaving her alone.
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The Marty McFly conversation was hilarious, and the interactions with Rumple were priceless.. I think Killian calling him mate was what fully convinced Rumple bc the past hook would never refer to him in that way. The clothing conversation was wonderful and it made Emma smile.
Her face when she realized she was seeing her parents meeting was priceless, then she screwed things up but Killian states “because of us” authenticating the fact that they’re a team and no matter the situation, he’s in it with her, never blaming her, but understanding the fact that mistakes are meant to be made.
Emma and Past Hook
I deeply love this scene it’s prob my second favorite scene in Snow Drifts, it’s hilarious.
I would really like to point out that given the position of his eyes. And even if it may have seemed otherwise. He was looking at her face and not other *ehem* assets. He literally was looking up at her. Just how when he met her in 2×05. His mouth is literally hanging open
You know what this means, right? That in ALL scenarios, no matter how they meet, Emma Swan and Killian Jones are True Love. I mean, this was Captain Hook still buried in his vengeance for Milah, the woman he loved. But he took one look at Emma and was completely taken with her.
He told Emma in Echo Cave that he essentially fell in love with her when they met, it took the kiss to make him realize just how far gone he was. Killian is saying here pretty much the same thing. If he’d have woken up from that punch/hangover and remembered the blonde lass he’d kissed the night before…he’d have gone after her. He’d have tried to find her, just like Charming did with Snow.
“You and I both know I’m his type.”
But that’s the funny thing about this…Emma’s not his type. Not until he meets her.
Go look at Past!Hook’s “companions” at that table. Both brunettes. Milah was a brunette. Nary a blonde to be found. It seems to me based on this admittedly limited evidence that Hook had a thing for the dark haired lasses. Which, hey, cool. Good on ya, buddy.
But then this ballsy blonde girl stomps her way into his life (both times, LOL) and BOOM, as our dear Captain would say. If you look carefully at that shot of past!Hook when bar wench! Emma bends over that table…his eyes are up. On her eyes. On her face. Emma’s other “assets” don’t even register at first (although I am certain he got a good look once he was alone with her, dude’s not dead). The look on past! Hook’s face is the definition of awestruck. He has no idea who this woman is but he really, really wants to. The next time we see them, his harem is gone and they’re alone, drinking and flirting shamelessly.
Then he takes her back to his ship and…we all know what happened. Killian said that if he’d remembered her, he’d have gone after her. Basically, that even in that brief encounter she had the power to completely change his life. Just as she did when they meet again in his future, when she pulls him out from under a pile of corpses and ties him to a tree.
One woman, two encounters. Both of which leave the previously single minded pirate wondering just what the hell happened…and who the bloody hell is this woman?
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Yes he’s jealous and it’s hilarious but Killian is actually in a way protecting Emma from his past self. He doesn’t think that Hook is deserving of Emma, which speaks to how much he has changed and grown as a character.
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The Ball
They both looked so gorgeous, Killian’s coat was like a mix of a prince and Mr darcy from the 2005 pride and prejudice
Princess Leia – Perfect, because A/E have referred to Emma as Leia and Hook as Han.. Plus you can see Emma going through the princesses in her head.
For someone like Emma who’s never felt like a real Princess, Killian made sure that her first experience was nothing short of magical by ceaselessly aiming to make her feel as though she’s the most immaculate Princess in all the realms. Visually, the scene was one of the most gorgeous ones in Once Upon A Time history.
Emma probably never went to prom so Killian probably took her to her first dance and that has a lot of meaning for Emma, plus the huge smiles on their faces while dancing are very telling. Plus he gave her confidence in telling her she’s a natural and for a woman who in the beginning of the episode didn’t think she fit in this world, this means a lot.
Stray Observations:
Midas didn’t make the same mistake as Stefan did in not inviting the evil witch to a ball
Emma’s face when seeing her parents’ interactions was priceless
Emma finally got to see what we CSers call the Red Vest of Sexiness
Even drunk of his a– Hook can carry Emma I don’t think many of us can do anything like that while drunk.
Killian Jones probably learned to dance during his days in the navy and he was flawless at it, and then fighting the black knights? I love it!
No matter if you change the circumstances, the events happen in the same way as proven by Snow and Charming.
Xoxo Maii
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Hello Jeff & Colleen….And Lady!
To me, “Snow Drifts” and the subsequent “No Place Like Home” did not disappoint and here is why:
We had call-backs to memorable scenes from season 1; returning characters we haven’t seen in a while; great moments of drama, comedy, & romance; the episode was very Captain/Swan centric……AND the piece de resistance….. we got two Hooks!! How could it not get any better than that? I was a very satisfied “fangirl”.
Some random thoughts:
• Since it is official that the show Intellegence is cancelled, I think it is pretty safe to assume that Meghan Ory will be back as Ruby next season, hopefully with more screen-time. (Here is your spot to cheer, Jeff!)
But could we PLEASE send a shout-out to Adam and Eddie to get Josh Holloway on the show? I know I’ve mentioned this before but we’ve had other LOST alum make an appearance, so let it be Josh’s turn next season!
• I’m rather surprised that some people are expecting Zelena to return in some form. I could be wrong, but I think she is definitely dead. Regina did say that, without her pendant, she was powerless so she could not have defended herself against Rumple when he stabbed her with his dagger. Regina also claimed that her death dissolved the tether holding Zelena’s magic in the pendant and that was what caused her magic held in it to be set free which then completed the portal spell she had begun.
• I know how much both Hook (and Jeff!) enjoyed Emma’s Ren. Faire attire, but I was laughing as I watched her tugging and tugging at that corset responsible for creating the vision of Emma’s cleavage that both Hooks so enjoyed.
• When Regina related to Robin the story of Tink revealing to her that she was destined to be with the man with the lion tatoo, it got me to thinking. We now have a major roadblock to Regina’s and Robin’s romance in the form of his wife, Marian. Well, next season, the Knave from Wonderland, played by Michael Socha, will be joining ONCE as a permanent cast member. And before he was known as the Knave of Hearts, he was known as Will Scarlet a major character in the tale of Robin Hood and his merry men. Could he possibly have a lion tattoo as well? After all, in the original tale, they were all joined in fight to put Richard, the Lionhart, back on the Engish throne so I’m curious to know if there could be others with that same lion tattoo? I’m just saying we never did see his face in that tavern have just assumed, like Regina, it was Robin. Plus, I think it would be very entertaining to see Regina and Will barbed comments. (Sorry, Colleen, I know you liked the Red Queen, but I don’t think she is coming on the show with him.)
• So enjoyed the ball scene where Emma finally got to feel like a princess and Hook got to be a waltzing, sword-wielding hero. I totally expected Emma to say she was Princess Diana. So when she said Princess Leia, I laughed out loud and, at the same time, thought Jeff must be loving the Star Wars reference.
• Loved the writers’ nod to Back to the Future complete with having the book’s pages disappear, just as Marty McFly’s photo of his brother and sister started to disappear when he interfered with the past. At one point Emma had pointed to the book saying: “I’m not a part of any of this”. She couldn’t relate to the book at all, except as a collection of fairy tale stories. So having Emma appear in the book, as Princess Leia, when the images came back on the pages was a great way to symbolize that she did truly belong.
• Jennifer Morrison did an amazing acting job in this finale. She was especially touching when she was begging Rumple to take the forgetting potion and let Neal die a hero. And also when she related to Hook that she knew she was always running away because no place had ever felt like home to her. But she was equally wonderful in the comic moments with Hook, as in the tavern and on the Jolly Roger. So kudos and a standing ovation to Ms. Morrison!
• Leaving the best for last…..I LOVED the fact that we got major Captain/Swann time in both episodes. And, of course, the ultimate treat of two Hooks! Those scenes with Hook, present and past, in the tavern and on the ship were a hoot! Having Hook jealous of himself was so amusing, especially when Emma went to adjust her décolletage and Hook was so aghast that he yelled: “What are you doing?!” He was so upset at the thought of his past-self romancing Emma. Of course, I love this new sweet, romantic side of our Hook. His admission that he gave up this beloved ship, the Jolly Rodger, for her was definitely swoon-worthy, and we FINALLY got the kiss we were waiting for. But I do hope the writers don’t lose the flirty, naughty side of his personality, because it’s part of his charm and makes his character so enjoyable to watch…..Besides being so “devilishly handsome!”
Looking forward to your main show and hearing what the other podcast listeners have to say.
Take care,
Marilyn
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Hi Jeff and Colleen,
Sorry (last minute)
Well, I have to give this episode an A+, as I really enjoyed every aspect of the episode.
Enjoyed the “hidden” Mickey at the beginning of the episode.
We had Betamax, Prince Charles & Princess Leia, Ruby is back! Katrina is back! Emma disrupting her parent’s first meeting (like Marty did in Back to the Future).
It appears that Regina’s redemption arc is almost complete and she is enjoying her own happy ending with Robin. She has defeated evil, has her heart and her true love, and has told Robin about him being her true love. I’m curious as to how his former wife’s death (Maid Marion) was his fault. All seems perfect for Regina.
Check out Emma’s face when she first lays eyes on Rumple – I’m sure she had no idea that Rumple would be gold. And check out Hook’s face when he see’s Emma in a corset.
Enjoyed your first thoughts on this episode.
Big Love,
Chuck
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Brad
Hello Jeff and Colleen, I know I had some disappointments last week but Great Scott! I loved, loved, loved this episode! So let’s kick it off first with the things I learned this week in the episode Snow Drifts.
#1. A pot luck at Granny’s, trumps
a royal coronation ceremony any
day.
#2. Maybe the town hall meetings
should have focused on security
upgrades for the Sherif station
instead of Regina’s evil
playground in the woods.
#3. A good woman, is one that can
curb homicidal tendencies.
#4. Real estate is much more
reasonable in the Enchanted
Forest.
#5. Marty McFly is not a wizard.
#6. The sensible pantsuits may have
actually calmed Regina down in
Storybrooke.
#7. You can always blame the rum.
#8. Emma makes a great wench……..
just saying.
#9. Regina’s way of opening doors
could come in very handy when
dealing with public restrooms.
#10. Hook gives a new meaning to
the term “beating yourself up”.
OBSERVATIONS:
I might not know that much about Liberace but I know plenty about Betamax. We had both a Betamax and VHS player growing up. We used to have wait for movies like Jaws, Willy Wonka, Superman and Wizard of Oz to come on tv so we could have them on tape. No Netflix or TiVo back then. We had to pause it in between commercials to cut them out. It was such a hard life!
Bambi made another appearance in this episode.
If characters that have been missing for awhile could be explained instead of just having them in the scene like they’ve always been there, it would seem more realistic. It could be a vacation, coma, flying monkey, anything! I found it so ridiculous that Abigail has been missing since The Return and then just shows up at Granny’s, hanging out like she hasn’t been absent for almost a whole season. It’s one of the things that takes me out of the scene every time.
Snow Drifts seemed to be brought to us by Apple because they bought a good amount of screen time. I’m surprised the iPhone 5 wasn’t listed in the opening credits.
Killian goes through the trouble of hiding in the shadow but does nothing to hide his hook when talking with Snow in the bottom of his ship.
The forget me knot and genie bands from Once Upon A Time In Wonderland can be seen in Rumpelstiltskin’s palace.
Hook found his eyeglass in Gold’s shop a couple weeks ago. Could August’s typewriter be on top of his cabinet as well?
BURNING QUESTIONS:
I am puzzled by the furry object hanging up in the background of Rumpel’s castle when Emma and Hook visit with him. What could be?
– Brad
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Voicemail points: Play Brads Audio message from the soundboard
Comedy bit:
Big Love
Prerec Outro:
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We send #BigLove out to everyone
Remember to take what you need and pass it on
Thanks to everyone for listening, however you listen
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