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DisneyOnceAgain – Peter Pan (1953) – 234

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Podcast Episode 234

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/234

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No “Once Upon a Time” opening from a book.

We see a beautifully recreated London. In a way, it was like taking us there. It was a real place, not a Fairy Tale place.

Peter Pan chose the house because they believed. This was a special group of children that believed. It could have been any group, but he chose them.

Children still believe in magic, adults don’t. They’ve grown out of belief.

Nana gave the kids tonic. I used to have to take Cod Liver Oil. Did Peter Pan give my parents this idea?

Kids play fun games with dangerous things; Pointed wooden swords and hangers swinging at each other. Plus they’re jumping on the bed. We never were allowed to jump on the bed.

Children teach us to have fun in the moment, today.

They drew a Treasure Map on the Mr. Darling’s shirt front.

Geocaching and letter boxing is a bit of treasure hunting today.

Mr. Darling explaining that there is a difference between stories and reality, but in this story – belief made this story true.

Moving Wendy out of the nursery and to her own room is a physical move from being a child to an adult. Mr. Darling wanted to remove her from the nursery (The land a childlike belief to adult practicality)

Poor Nana. Nana had a lot of jobs in the Darling home, but one little tripping issue over the blocks and out she goes.

“Everybody has to grow up”

Can’t you still be an adult and still have a childlike belief.

This animated movie had so much imagination; Flying to a magical island, shadows that separate from a body, etc.

The music was Classic Disney music.

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This was the first, male Peter Pan.

A Tink with depth and flaws. Tink is a like a mood ring. She changes colors based on her mood.

Peter Pan wasn’t very kind to Wendy, “Girls talk too much”, etc.

Peter tells Wendy “You can be our Mother”. Even though Peter Pan made a place for Lost Boys who stay young, believe in magic, he knew that something was missing, a Mother figure. Someone to care for and nurture the group.

Notice that Big Ben was on 8:15, the same as the clock in Storybrooke

We get a fly over of London

The pirates were very piratey and not Disney “family friendly”;

Captain Hook: [grabbing Smee] I’ve got it! Tiger Lily, Smee!
Mr. Smee: [nervously] T-T-Tiger Lily, Captain?
Captain Hook: The chief’s daughter. She’ll know where Pan is hiding.
Mr. Smee: B-B-But-But will she talk, Captain?
Captain Hook: Oh, a little persuasion might be in order. Now let me see… Boiling in oil? Uh, keelhauling? Eh, marooning?

Later on when Tink gives up the location of Peter Pan’s hideout (Hangman’s Tree)

Captain Hook: [about to lower a bomb into Peter Pan’s hideout] And now, Smee, to take care of master Peter Pan.
Mr. Smee: But, Captain, wouldn’t it be more humane-like to slit his throat?
Captain Hook: Aye, that it would, Mr Smee. But I have given me word not to lay a finger, or a hook, on Peter Pan. And Captain Hook never breaks a promise.

Cannibal Cove

Mermaid Lagoon

Hook shot and killed the accordion player

The animation was so good

I love the pirates, because they came from all over the world, even Sweden.

When you fly with Peter Pan, that also means you can float and stand on clouds.

Tinkerbell treated flying like swimming in the air.

Lost Boys, Hook and Peter Pan speak Tink.

Tink was very mean. She told the Lost Boys to shoot down Wendy. Mean Tink.

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Hook was pretty sneaky. He kidnapped Tigerlilly, but the Indians thought the Lost Boys did.

Mermaids really liked Peter Pan, but they were mean to Wendy, too. They tried to drown her.

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There were live mermaids at Disneyland, too.

Peter Pan would have been a great ventriloquist, they way he threw his voice.

We didn’t get much explanation about crowing, but Peter Pan did crow a number of times.

Skull Rock.

There used to be a Skull Rock and Pirate Ship at Disneyland.

Great sword fights.

Wendy, lucky to not get shot our of the sky, drowned or eaten by the crocodile after walking the plank, was the moral voice of the movie.

Smee is a busy body, he hears everything and is perfect to use in dialogue exposition and move the story ahead.

Pan brings peace to the land by returning Tigerlilly.

Hook manipulates Tink. Different than the OUAT show Hook.

Those in Never Never Land forgot their Mother.

Smee and the other pirates (not Hook) were crying at the Your Mother and Mine song.

Smee brings out Hook’s “Sunday Best” hooks. Golden hooks.

Margaret Kerry’s website: Tinkerbell Talks

Thanks to Richard and Sarah from Skywalking Through Neverland for allowing us to include a snippet of their interview with Margaret Kerry and they included thoughts of their own about Peter Pan.

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DisneyOnceAgain – Robin Hood (1973) – 233

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“Robin Hood” (1973)

Podcast Episode 233

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/233

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Robin Hood show notes

Alan-a-Dale referred to the song he sang as a folk song, but its sounded an awful lot like a country song to me.

Folk music was big at the time, so maybe referring to a folk song might related better to the early 1970’s audience?

Prince John was comedically evil.

The snake face animation was incredible showing the 3d look of the face as it turned.

It was interesting to see the Prince with psychological problems. Pretty bold for a Disney cartoon. Seemed a bit like the Smother’s Brothers.

Robin Hood and Little John are master’s of disguise.

Little John made a Medieval Haunted Mansion floating crystal ball.

We see another mirror in a Disney animated film (Snow White, Beauty and the Beast and (so far) this one).

Robin Hood is a reflection of Hope for tough times, like Once Upon a Time shows.

It was a great choice of all the animals for all the characters.

Great kid voices for the bunnies and turtle.

What is “Oo De Lally”???

Boob jokes – in a Disney movie???

You will go from an Outlaw to a Hero, like the storylines of Season 3 of Once Upon a Time.

Friar Tuck kept sipping Robin Hood’s burnt stew – Ewww.

Lots of late 60’s, early 70’s vernacular and music (Hip Daddy Cat music).

Lots of marching.

Tail spinning and arrow flying by sounds made by a person? Maybe a you Ben Burtt? just kidding

We see one crossbow in a movie filled with regular bows and arrows

It was so great to see how the animals took care of each other, even when they were in jail, and when the church mouse gave her last coin for the church poor box.

Sir Hiss was Prince John’s second in command, but Once Upon a Time baddies have no second in commands.

Prince John’s guards shoot arrows like Stormtroopers shoot laser beams.

Little John dressed up in a disguise like a 70’s Pimp Daddy (with a cane, even)

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Thanks to Daniel Hale from the DisGeek Podcast for his thoughts on Robin Hood.

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DisneyOnceAgain – Beauty and the Beast – 232

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“Beauty and the Beast” (1991)

Podcast Episode 232

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/232

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Another animated Disney film that starts with “Once Upon a Time”

BATB is basically a morality play teaching a lesson about not being selfish

Never judge a book by its cover. Books are Belle’s treasures.

Belle mentions she was reading a book about beanstalks and ogres.

Another theme is that reading makes you a hero.

The opening song that also serves as exposition of the story.

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Gaston says he wants Belle because she’s beautiful, but there are other beautiful women in town, maybe he sees Belle for more than beauty?

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The wolf chase scenes were chilling.

There is a classic horror film look to some of the scenes; the gate, the castle, etc.

The Beast entrance was scary, as well.

Belle breaks many stereotypes; She says no to marrying the strongest man, she reads, she wants adventure instead of staying at home.

Belle bold sacrifice – “Take me instead (of my father)”.

The Beast wants her to stay forever (like Rumpel said in OUAT).

Another classic horror story motif, the hunting party (or mob).

Lots of classic Battle (or Misunderstanding) of the Sexes moments; Men can’t eat or handle their temper properly.

The Be our Guest song was very Esther Williams and Busby Berkley pool or dancing number.

(below) Picture of Busby Berkley section in Hollywood Studios’ Great Movie Ride

Even dishes, chairs and lamps have destinies.

We are shown an animated conflict resolution.
“If you didn’t…”
“If you had…”
“Thank you…for saving me”
“You’re welcome”

Ripping the shades of the windows.

He’s No Prince Charming.

Hunters are bad. At least that’s one of themes of the film is.

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Thanks to Michelle and Jayne from the Disney Dream Girls Podcast for their thoughts http://disneydreamgirlspodcast.blogspot.com/

DisneyOnceAgain – Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs – 231

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“Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” (1937)

Podcast Episode 231

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/231

The multi-plane filming made you feel that you were crawling into these beautiful backgrounds.

For a Disney “Family-friendly” film, there were many scary and violent parts to it.

Opening with the Evil Queen section was a bold story choice, instead of the subject of the film.

The animal and dwarf animation and jokes were so perfect.

Snow White’s goodness balanced the Evil Queen’s evil, and yet they lived in the same castle.

The story showed the Evil Queen’s 2 attempts at ending Snow White’s life. We get the whole story, and not just a linear story.

The emotion of the Huntsman and Snow White scene was perfect relayed.

Part of the film was a time capsule of a time when you could have fun; cleaning a house, making a pie and singing and dancing together. You didn’t need things, you just need to be together.

Once Upon a Time connections –

A Magical Book opens the film and the text “Once Upon a Time” started it all.

The huntsman scene with Snow White was very similar.

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