3X18 Bleeding Through – Main Show – We are old, Rabbit trails, and other things – 222

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Episode Name: Bleeding Through

Podcast Episode 222

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Ginnifer Goodwin on Jimmy Kimmel

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Gabriel

The mystery of the book is something I really hope they reveal in the next season, because it’s high time they let the Once audience know. My money is still on the Blue Fairy, because if I remember correctly, at one point in season 2 she said that she and the fairies had some “Last minute preparations” to see to before the Queen’s curse hit. They never revealed to us what those preparations were, so there’s a good chance she and the fairies created the book as a means to one day help the Savior study her past and the past of her fellow Enchanted Forest citizens, but instead the book ended up in Henry’s hands instead of the saviors.

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Aleana

I love this episode so much character development between Snow and Regina love that Regina instantly protect Snow from ghost Cora Love that they decide to let the past go and look forward Love when Snow told Regina she feels deeply with or without her heart I like Regina and Robin yes I do think they rush this relationship but I like that it was Snow advice that made Regina take a risk and that kiss was hot So funny seeing Emma loving her magic love seeing more Belle in every episode love Belle standing up for herself to Regina I been wanting that forever and I finally think they found a way to use her more outside her relationship with Rumple which I love even though Regina and Snow are my favorite characters I’m more like Belle I love Cora in the flashback but also hate her think she was bit naive to believe a complete stranger is a prince I mean she was working in a bar wouldn’t she know who rule that land where she worked also my thing is

if Cora would have been honest with Prince Leopold I believe he would have still married her and claim the baby as his own what funny is he gave her opportunity to tell the truth and she didn’t

and when Snow told everyone why she gave Zelena up was wrong because even though Princess Ava was a b***h she just told the truth to protect Prince Leopold Cora gave Zelena up because she was selfish and wanted to give herself a best chance love the way they rework that quote instead giving the child best chance she want to give herself a best chance I do hope we see what turn Princess Ava to person she was in Season 2 The Queen Is Dead even though I like Prince Leopold I do find it gross that he was going to married Cora but then married Regina I’m hoping Cora put a spell on him to forget they met before otherwise it’s gross I just hope if he does remember meeting Cora and almost married her that when he married Regina it was only for Snow to have a mother figure and they didn’t consummate the marriage even though this happen in real life it’s gross I felt sorry for Zelena when Rumple played her but also proud that Rumple didn’t go with her plan and decide to honor his son the right way by trying to stop her look forward to listening

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Brad

Hello Jeff and Colleen, I hope you both had an awesome time at Wonder Con. It sounded like it was a lot of fun.

Here are the things I learned in the episode, Bleeding Through.

#1. Bookworms have teeth.

#2. Rule of thumb: always question
      the beverage during a séance.

#3. Talking to the dead sounds
       an awful lot like Clue. The
       murderer was Snow, with the
       magic candle in Gold’s shop.

#4. Prince Leopold was definitely not
      a Boy Scout.

#5. Regina has a creepy spindle room.

#6. Ghost abuse is a serious issue.

#7. Granny’s is going global!

#8. Never tamper with a man’s hook without his permission.

#9. Cora and Malcom (Peter Pan) deserve each other!

#10. The placenta ain’t afraid of no ghost.

OBSERVATIONS:

When Rumpelstiltskin made the curse, he didn’t care who he manipulated or hurt in the process. His happiness was the only thing that mattered. Now that Bae has  given his life so that everyone could be saved, his father has changed how he looks at things. In the episode Going Home, he tells Belle, “He’s not dead, he’s just lost.” Zelena tries to get him to this point again, telling him his son is merely lost but Rumpel respects and understands Bae’s sacrifice enough to now say, “My son is not lost, he’s dead.”

I didn’t get Regina’s Liberace comment to Belle until I looked it up. It appears that Liberace pretty much always had a candelabra on or near his piano while playing. Behind the Candelabra: My Life with Liberace was a memoir written by Scott Thorson in 1988. It was also made into a full length movie in 2013. This should help anyone who has heard of Liberace but didn’t know anything about him like myself.

While in the tavern a man says
“Give us a dance Lassie” and Cora responds with, “Let it go Charlie”. Is this a Frozen and Lost reference merged together? Frost perhaps?

Regina has a dagger just sitting on a table in her living room. I know that’s where I always keep my weaponry.

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Snow said that Cora didn’t have a choice in giving up Zelena but this just isn’t true. She could have raised Zelena but would have done it as a Miller’s daughter. The only thing she cared about was power and what was best for her. She propositioned herself to anyone with royalty.
She didn’t love Jonathan, she only wanted his status. This is totally opposite of Regina falling in love with a stable boy. Cora’s love for power was so great, that she was willing to give up a helpless baby. I found myself more angry with her than having any type of symphony.

I was thinking about The Miller’s Daughter episode and how absurd it was for Cora to tell King Xavier that she could turn straw into gold. It always seemed like a off the wall thing to suggest she could do. Now we see that Jonathan actually told her, “I will turn this straw into gold”, when talking about the straw ring. So this must be where she got the idea. It also tells us this is pre-Rumple for the timeline. Now it makes so much more sense.

Friar Tuck made an appearance in this episode. I’m sure we’ve seen him before  but I don’t remember him
being pointed out in any way.

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David says he prefers Earl Grey tea but what exactly is that? I’m not really a tea drinker so I had to look it up. What I’ve read is that Earl Grey tea is one of the most popular teas in the West, and is likely the most popular flavored tea in the world. It is a black tea with a bold citrusy flavor. I may have to give up coffee one day and actually try this tea instead.

When Regina threw the dagger at Zelena, she disappeared just like Regina did when David threw his sword at her during the wedding.  It must be a Rumpel trick.

Next week we will find out who cast the curse. This complicates things because I thought this answer was obvious. It looks as though it’s more complicated than I thought.

BURNING QUESTIONS:

Who told Cora “Act like what you plan to be?”. Did this person start her down a path of power over love?

What door did Emma and David come through if it had been sealed? The window?

Did Zelena as a baby produce the tornado that took her to Oz?

-Brad

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3 thoughts on “3X18 Bleeding Through – Main Show – We are old, Rabbit trails, and other things – 222

  1. Gabriel

    This was a fun listen, absolutely no need for apologies guys, I think that your chasing of rabbit trails was quite entertaining, lol. I thankfully did the watch Behind the Candelabra, so luckily I got the reference made to Belle by Regina about the candle.

    Onto the subject of Cora. I think I might be in the minority here, but I actually do kinda of feel bad for her. I’ve been discussing back and forth with some others, and just don’t think people really understand the severity of Cora’s personal life. I know that giving her child away perhaps wasn’t the best thing to do, but I’ve been thinking, and really what kind of life would Zelena had had if Cora kept her? Cora herself seemed to be just barely making it, she even asked Johnathon to at least give her enough money to take care of the child. I believe that Cora would have kept Zelena under normal circumstances, otherwise why ask for financial support so that she can properly care for her.

    I sympathize with Cora’s situation, and I feel like decisions weren’t so black and white for her. She seeming had been poor throughout her entire life, so I truly understand her wanting and aspiring to be more, to get out of living a life of poverty and being looked down upon and treated less than by everyone else. I think people need to stop for a second and really place themselves not just in Cora’s shoes, but shoes of any person just barely making it, or even a homeless individual. Would they perhaps do some questionable things to live a better life? Probably so.

    I’m not defending Cora’s decision at all to give up her child, that could have been handled another way. Perhaps she could have given Zelena to an orphanage, or a family who desired a child, she had other paths to take, but I feel that the one she took is the ONLY path she felt she had. And also you have to think about the time setting of Once, at least in the Enchanted Forest. A single woman, deflowered woman with a child was not exactly looked upon in the best light in medieval periods.

    Ultimately what I’m trying to say is that a lot of hatred for past Cora is unwarranted. Sure hate older Cora because she was just an evil woman who couldn’t feel because she had no heart, but young Cora was just a young girl looking for a way out of a horrible life, and made some bad decisions along the way, and I can’t really hate her for that.

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  2. Gabriel

    OH! And also, I have a theory about the time travel Zelena plans to do, which may or may not happen. So Zelena is under the belief that Regina just had everything handed to her, that her sister just lived this amazing life, but we all know that isn’t true. If Zelena goes back in time, is it possible that she will the events that have unfolded over the span of Regina’s life and come to realize that Regina did not have it nearly as easy as she once had thought, and dare I say become more sympathetic toward her sister? Just a thought, we shall see how this all plays out.

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    1. Gabriel

      *Correcting a typo. My Apologies guys.

      OH! And also, I have a theory about the time travel Zelena plans to do, which may or may not happen. So Zelena is under the belief that Regina just had everything handed to her, that her sister just lived this amazing life, but we all know that isn’t true. If Zelena goes back in time, is it possible that she will witness the events that have unfolded over the span of Regina’s life and come to realize that Regina did not have it nearly as easy as she once had thought, and dare I say become more sympathetic toward her sister? Just a thought, we shall see how this all plays out

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