Sympathy for the De Vil Review – First Thoughts – 276

PATRICK FISCHLER, VICTORIA SMURFIT

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Sympathy for the De Vil Review

First Thoughts

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Episode Number: 276

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Notes:

In the opening scene, we see young Cruella running away from home. Was that the first time she did, or was is one time of many?

How did Madeline (Cruella’s mother (Played by Anna Galvin)) have control over the dogs? That must have been some kind of magic. How did Madeline become magical? What is her backstory?

Throughout the episode, Madeline used dog training terms on Cruella, like “Stay (Here)”, “Be Quiet”, “Learn to Obey”, etc.

When Cruella goaded Malefiecent into turning into a dragon, and in that form, Cruella used her magical influence to cause Maleficent to “take a nap”. It is interesting to note that that the term nap was what Regina used when she performed a sleeping spell on young Snow’s horse in the episode “Enter the Dragon”.

When Regina went to visit Belle at Gold’s pawn shop, she seemed to accept Regina’s offer rather quickly. I wondered if the Belle we saw was not the real Belle. Shape shifting is almost the norm is the stories now, and Belle was some kind of vision to Rumpel on Neverland.

The Author’s name is Isaac.

Gold had the quill. The quill must be used with the special ink to write or change a story.

We see Rumpel’s dark heart with just a glint of goodness. Rumpel told Belle that if his heart is completely taken over by darkness, he will “In a matter of speaking, he’ll die”, meaning “I’ll lost the ability to love”.

There were lots of threats and lots of playing “chicken” with characters tonight. Gold used Regina’s redemption to question her threat of killing Belle by crushing her heart if Gold told Zelena that Regina was coming to destroy her.

The term “Hero” was used to make those that used it to validate, invalidate or limit their actions. For instance the use of “Heroes don’t kill,” by Cruella, and Emma called her parents “Heroes are Paragon’s of virtue” but Hook told Emma, “Even Heroes make mistakes, love”, and Regina told Emma that Snow had been trying to make up for her mistake for a long time.

We had a Romeo and Juliet moment, even.

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Can Rumpelstiltskin in Once Upon a Time be Redeemed?

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Rumpelstiltskin has had a very winding road of character arcs. He has: Taken unlimited (but limiting to him) power and immortality from the Dark One dagger from Zoso, been given limited visions of the future from a seer, “died” and been revived at least once, gave up and found his son again, found love with Belle, but always struggles with choosing power over things that would bring his true, “happy ending”.

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Rumbelles and Rumpel fans have struggled to like Rumpel/Mr. Gold because of his wrong choices. My wife yells at the TV (like many of you, I think) when Rumpel lies, manipulates and makes wrong choices these days.

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With the release of “The Author” Rumpelstiltskin may have his chance to be redeemed, but can Rumpelstiltskin in Once Upon a Time be Redeemed?

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Many say no, but I say maybe.

The answer to me, lies (pardon the pun) with the Author.

I believe at some point the Author will have a “Come to Reality” conversation with Rumpelstiltskin, and instead of writing new “happy endings” for Rumpel, the Author will tell him the pieces of his happy endings were there all along – he just needed to make the right choices.

As powerful and as manipulative as Rumpel is, it can’t overcome Rumpel’s bad choices.

At the end of the day, it may not be the Author controlling the story of our characters, the destiny or “happy endings” of our OUAT characters will be contingent upon their choices. Did they treat people well? Did they choose the important thing for all time or the thing that will bring short term, instant happiness?

Perhaps the Author will get his happy ending by highlighting the opportunities all around the OUAT characters to get theirs by good choices?

What do you think? Can Rumpelstiltskin be Redeemed?

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5 Reasons I Still Watch and Enjoy ABC TV’s “Once Upon a Time”.

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There are lots of choices of shows to watch, stream, etc these days. With only 24 hours in a day (and jobs, family, etc taking up a lot of those hours) it becomes more difficult to choose shows to watch. I realize that there are many reasons that people start and continue to watch shows, but one show has continued to keep me coming back to it, and that is ABC TV’s Once Upon a Time. I want to share my 5 Reasons I still watch and enjoy ABC TV’s “Once Upon a Time”.

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5. It’s a modern day morality play. I love stories, but stories with depth and layers are far more interesting to me. If you peel back layers of stories like the Original Star Wars Trilogy, it’s a morality play of choosing the light side and the dark side of the force. The warnings are clear and we watch what happens when someone chooses one or the other.

Once Upon a Time is the same.

We hope that certain characters will do the right thing, but they sometimes (Okay, many times) don’t. We (the audience) know the risks and/or the reward from making choices, and watch the characters enjoy the good or struggle through their choices. Life is messy. Sure, we wish everyone would make the right choice all then time, but that doesn’t make very good dramatic television and also it doesn’t teach us anything. Sometimes we learn by watching people make wrong choices, and there are many made on Once Upon a Time.

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4. It’s an extension (Not a copy) of the Disney movies we grew up with. We all remember the Disney’s retelling of classic stories, but Once Upon a Time take’s a “fan fiction twist” if you will on the Disney version, plus original story elements and adding a heavy dose of the story Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis want to tell. There are enough nods to the stories we remember, but also a new helping of new story twists making it a brand new experience. To me, Adam and Eddy are the Walt Disney (as far as TV show story writing goes) for a new generation.

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3. It’s a “Reality Show” for Heroes and Villians. Adam and Eddy have challenged us to think beyond the boxes we like to put characters in: They are a Villain (always bad) – They are a Hero (always good). We struggle to do the right thing, and yet do the wrong, but we make these cardboard 1 dimensional story characters that can never wrestle or struggle like we do, because we don’t want heroes or villains to be like us. They are, and great writers like Adam and Eddy remind us of that.

Regina’s multi-seasonal redemption arc from Evil Queen/Evil Mayor to hero who uses light magic and is a card-carrying member of the heroes of Storybrooke is the most incredible of all.

Rumpel/Gold has had an “almost” redemption journey. Just when you think he’s there, – the old power hungry Rumpel kicks in, well like I said – it’s like real like (without the magical stuff).

Snow, Charming and Emma we learn had darkness in their past. Heroes have to struggle against darkness to make right decisions to be the Hero.

Strength without struggle is impossible. The struggle we see makes these characters resonate with us.

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2. It has some of the strongest actors on television today. Lana, Robert, Ginnifer, Josh, Jennifer… I could go on and on about the strong cast in Once Upon a Time. They are top notch actors, that many people have never heard of. You can feel the emotion their characters are giving off through the TV screen. I feel it. That is the key to great acting, and OUAT has it all around. They make you laugh with them, cry with them, relate with them and are repelled by them, too.

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1. It’s like a diamond – we see the same thing, but take away only a facet. We are not all the same. We all have different life paths, beliefs, etc, and the great thing about OUAT is that whoever we are – we watch it, see and take away something different from it. OUAT has a “magical” power that pulls people together that normally wouldn’t be to share this incredible story about incredible characters told with incredible actors by incredible writers and crew.

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Heart of Gold Review – First Thoughts – 274

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Heart of Gold Review

First Thoughts

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Episode Number: 274

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Notes:

Like E.T., without keys

David and Mary Margaret confess about knowing the author

David and Mary Margaret admit to being human and made a mistake

Magical Quill must be made from the wood of Enchanted Tree. There is none in Storybrooke.

The author didn’t enjoy writing about Gold at all

Gold rescues the author, in trade for writing him new happy endings

Gold had Regina in cuffs (Magical cuffs?). He released her and gave her Robin’s phone number.

“I’m walking here!!” from Midnight Cowboy

Polar Star Coach – Lost

Bae’s apartment is a new hostel for those from the Enchanted Forest.

Marion lays down her purse, and she is welcomed to New York by being robbed

Robin steals (or borrows) a horse to get back Marion’s purse

Little John!

Robin and Marion’s Tavern

Robin of Loxley, walking the straight and narrow. Not vocalized, but we felt the same way about Regina.

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“I can speak for myself” Marion. Go Marion

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Storybrooke for Sale? Sad times for Steveston.

Is Storybrooke for sale? From the looks of things in the Vancouver seaside village, Steveston B.C., it could use some of Rumpelstiltskin’s magic.

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If we turn back the clock, when “Once Upon a Time” TV show first brought it’s cameras, lights and stars, Sandi Swanigan (who runs the City of Richmond’s department in charge of coordinating with the film industry) said, “It’d be really exciting if, in three years, one of the things Steveston is known for – beyond its shops and fish and chips – is it’s the town in Once Upon a Time”. Yes, the fans of the show make pilgrimages to Steveston, but the fishing industry (which is vital to the town) was on the decline.

We have listeners to the podcast that keep an eye on the town for us, and it is sad to see all the For Sale signs going up more and more for vital locations for “Once Upon a Time”.

Take, for example the Nikka Fishing and Marine building that doubles for the Storybrooke Free Public Library. From a story in the Richmond News dated September 22, 2014 “A landmark Steveston fishing supplies shop will be closing its doors next month, putting yet another nail in the coffin of the village’s fishing industry.”

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There has been some interesting discussions within the town as to what to do with the now abandoned Nikka Fishing and Marine building, a suggestion of “…exploring the idea of using the soon-to-be-abandoned Nikka Fishing Marine building, which is the fictional library for Storybrooke in the television series Once Upon a Time” has been made.

Another shop that can be seen in the background of “Once Upon a Time” is for sale or lease.

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And, as shown before, the Cannery Cafe which doubles as “Granny’s Cafe” is also for sale, as well.

Colleen and I visited Steveston a few years back and were the first Once Upon a Time Podcast to broadcast live there (We set up in the Steveston Hotel Cafe and watched Robert Carlyle go by in the cast transportation van). We love Steveston, and want to see it thrive. Let’s hope that things change soon for that wonderful town.

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