From TV Ratings by the Numbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/04/l3-ratings-abcs-once-upon-a-time-emerges-as-sundays-top-broadcast-in-adults-18-49-revenge-is-the-nights-biggest-overall-gainer/206981/) – Updated on 10/4/13
10.3 million viewers
By Comparison (from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Once_Upon_a_Time_episodes#cite_note-52)) –
S2 Premiere (Broken) 11.36 Million Viewers,
S1 Pilot 12.93 Million Viewers
– Happy Birthday to Malini!
Over the Summer Happenings –
– We send #BigLove and Congratulations to Lana Parrilla for her engagement to Fred. (Link: http://www.timesofisrael.com/scandal-actors-gush-about-their-trip-in-israel/ )
– Jmo starred in a movie called “Some Girls” that is now available on Vimeo and iTunes. (Link: http://somegirlsfilm.com/ )
– Ginnifer starred in a National Geographic Channel movie called “Killing Kennedy,” in which she plays Jackie Kennedy. The film premieres on Sunday, November 10. (Link: http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/09/12/killing-kennedy-teaser-trailer-hits-the-web/ )
Shadow of the Queen, the Illustrated novel and
The Once Upon a Time Behind the Scenes magazines were released:
Thanks to Marissa and Paige for their help.
Jeff and Colleen’s thoughts:
How did Pan/The Lost Boys communicate with Greg and Tamara? How did He/They deliver the “communicator”? How did they know to light a signal fire?
How did Greg and Tamara know where Neverland was? According to Neal, if you think of a place you go there. How did they know?
Tamara was surprised they made it. I would assume they’ve never made that or any trip through the portal. Who taught them about portal travel?
The Charming family seem to be pulling apart, but the more dastardly and dashing characters are working together more easily.
Bae’s Sword. Did Hook teach him to fight?
Can Team 7 or Mother Superior somehow send some pixie dust to Henry? To give them a way to escape?
Mermaids seem to be the first line of defense of the Neverland island.
How kooky is it that all the exposition from Greg and Tamara about The Home Office led to it to be revealed and now (it seems) nullified?
Rumpel referred to Pan the way most people referred to Rumpel (Especially Regina, “There’s always something more with you”)
Wizard of Oz – Crystal Ball
Will Emma rescue all the Lost Boys (as she connects with him as an orphan), or just Henry?
Will our heroes have to complete games to gain control over Pan and escape the island?
Rumpel’s connection to Neverland. Collecting babies.
Jeff and Colleen,
My friend and I were talking last night after the premiere and we had a thought about peter pan and his shadow and would like to get your thoughts on our theory. We were wondering, since there is a human pan now, why does the shadow get the kids and not the boy? We thought that even peter is trapped because Wendy said once you step foot on neverland you cannot leave, but maybe your shadow can? Please let us know what you think. Thanks.
I don’t know why I didn’t catch this last season, but the thought just occurred to me and is really bothering me. Hopefully someone will have some insight for me.
We know that until Emma arrived and decided to stay, the clock didn’t move. toward the end of season 2, it showed Regina walking through town and the day kept playing itself over and over with no real changes. So, I guess we are to assume that these characters were stuck in the same day for 28 years. Now to the part that bothers me. We know that at some point before Emma arrived, Mary Margerete and Dr Whale had a fling, Dr Hopper was treating Henry and he would not have started that when henry first arrived. it had to be at some point later in time. also, we know that at some time in the 28 years, Red tried to leave, but Granny had a heart attack.
so did time really stand still and repeat itself over and over, like groundhog day. Or did their lives go on during this 28 years, its just that they didn’t really change much?
Really looking forward to the new season. Have missed the podcast.
Hey Jeff and Colleen,
I have to say that I really enjoyed the season opener for Once Upon A Time. There were so many great scenes in this episode that I’ll only touch on a few of them. Loved the scenes in Enchanted Forest with Mulan, Phillip, Aurora, and Neal. Nice to see that Neal made it through the portal okay. Though if I were Neal I don’t know if I wouldn’t have been saying that I was Rumpelstiltskin’s son right away. Cool that Rumpelstiltskin hid a few of his magical items in the Dark Castle and that they could only be found by Neal. Though I am wondering how Neal knew about the Dark Castle. Maybe Rumple told him about it off screen while they were in Storybrooke, or Neal heard about it from others during his travels. Greg and Tamara didn’t last too long in Neverland. Be careful who you work for and like Henry said, you need to ask more questions. Tamara actually thinking that Rumple would forgive her for what she did to his son was wishful thinking. So glad the two of them are gone. The scenes between Henry and Pan were bone chilling. When the Lost Boys were circling around Henry with Pan, I was so hoping that Rumple would have shown up and did his best Molly Weasley impersonation/ improvisation of not my Grandson….. Colleen, I agree with you about how cruel Pan’s games will be. I’m hoping not too cruel. I’ll wrap it up here. I can’t wait to see what the rest of the season has in store. Looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts and everyone elses.
Give Lady a treat from me.
Big Love to everybody.
Holly from Wisconsin
Just listened to the first thoughts on 3×01.. and first of all thank you for not hating on Hook… I’ve had to stop listening to some podcasts bc of their excessive Hook bashing..
Just want to point out some things
One thing you mentioned Hook looks at Emma like a daughter, yeah I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure if a dad looked at a daughter like that it would be highly incestuous but he does care about her. No one can deny that (no matter how much they want to) just look at the way he looks when she’s talking:
1. The scene with rumple and Emma- Killian looks murderous and worried
2. The almost drowning, He looks terrified and then he looks relieved when she woke up
3. When he is talking about the happy ending he looks directly at where Emma is sitting when he’s done talking
4. The scene with the drinks, he knew she needed closure, and that she would be all in knots about Rumple’s words so he went to cheer her up.
5. Her speech at the end he looks seriously impressed and his “I quite fancy you from time to time when you’re not yelling at me” is a way of stating his feelings after she almost died. (Emma almost died in the same spot Milah died)
& Bae did go to our world when he fell in the portal, he ended up with the Darlings then sacrificed himself for Wendy’s brothers and that’s how he ended up in Neverland.
Your podcast is wonderful and I really enjoy it keep up the good work.
Hello Jeff and Colleen, it’s great to have the podcast back!
Here’s the list of things I learned from this weeks episode, The Heart of the Truest Believer.
#1. Henry was born at 8:15.
#2. The electrical surge after Henry’s birth would suggest he is magical too.
#3. Sand is not an effective replacement for batteries.
#4. Neverland is the Motherload of magic.
#5. Rumpelstiltskin always finds time for a wardrobe change.
#6. Snow and Charming are Infuriating optimistic.
#7. Neverland is a place where imaginations run wild.
#8. Sharks and whales and kraken’s, oh my! Have nothing on Mermaids.
#9. Hook fancy’s Emma when she’s not yelling at him.
#10. Portals take you wherever you think.
#11. Mulan and Aurora are much more likeable than the first season.
#12. Robin Hood had a major face transplant since the last time we saw him.
#13. It doesn’t take much for Aurora to give up.
#14. It is much easier to get someone to hate something than to believe
#15. Evil Peter Pan and Felix are amazingly wicked!
P.S. I really thought the music from Mark Isham this week was great!
Voicemails from Tyler, Brad and Not so “Bashful” Mig Macario. Thanks, Mig!
The Saga of Cook Sal Manilla and Stinky Joe
Be a Good Pirate this week
Buy someone a coffee
Let someone ahead of you in line, etc
Sending you all #BigLove
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