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3X06 Ariel – Main Show – Hook Good, Neil Bad? #ArielStabs #OncerQuiz

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Here’s a question, I was watching after Owen comes to Storybrooke. How is it that no one has ever stumbled upon the town? I know it’s cloaked but what happens if someone just happens to turn down that road. Do they crash? Do they enter Storybrooke? Do they just keep driving and pass through as if the town is not even there? Second watches always seem to bring up questions.

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Danielle

You know what after rewatching Season 1 and most of Season 2, I realized Cora is the cause of the mess between Regina and Snow. 1. Cora killed Snows Mother 2. Cora cause Snows horse to go wild 3. Cora practically forced Snow to tell her about Snow and Daniel, you could tell that Snow didn’t want to say anything. I am wondering if Regina had known what her mother did to Snows mother do you think the relationship between Regina and Snow would of been different? Do you think Regina still could of been with Daniel?

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Marilyn

After seeing the naval uniforms in Hook’s backstory, does anyone else now think that Rumple’s doll seems to be dressed in a naval officer’s uniform?

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From Holly

Hey Jeff and Colleen,
This was another fantastic episode. I agree with the both of you that this season has been fantastic and that whatever changes that were made between season 2 and this current season that they don’t go back.  Pan’s still up to his vindictive mischievous best. We still don’t know who or what is in the other box that was next to Neal before he got moved to the Echo Cave. Loved the training scene with Emma and Regina. I’m thinking now that Regina’s realizing some of Rumple’s frustration when he was training her. Snow’s track record for keeping secrets is still not doing so hot. She’s kept like maybe one. Ariel asked her not to say anything to Prince Eric and she was able to manage that. I was on Charming and Hook’s side to not say anything to Emma in case if what Pan had told Hook would have been a lie. That could have sent Emma further over the edge. The Student becoming the Teacher when Regina force chokes Pan’s shadow version of Belle. Rumple and Regina teaming up to bring down Pan had me cheering. I’m really hoping that Pan doesn’t see this one coming. One ticked off Grandfather and one of two Angry Mamma Bears on the warpath, I’d be a little worried. That fate worse than death thing sounds rather ominous. I’m also glad that Ariel got her voice back. I’m really hoping that Regina won’t have to do too much more convincing to Ariel about having her head to Storybrooke and getting the item from Gold’s shop to bring Pan down. Snow and Emma finally know the truth that Charming had been poisoned by the dream shade. Snow was none too thrilled. Very glad that Neal said that even though Emma kissed Hook that he still wouldn’t give up on her and stop fighting for her.  The Fairy Tale land scenes with Ariel were great. Loved the ending bit where the actual Ursula shows up and gives Regina what for for impersonating her. Well I’ll wrap it up here. Big love to everyone.
Holly

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From Aleana

Love this episode JoAnna Garica was great as Ariel love her friendship with Snow Prince Eric was okay but a bit dull love Regina and Rumple team up but I do think it going to take all of them to save Henry I didn’t like Snow being team Nealfire but I think she only want Emma with Nealfire because Henry want it I was mad that we didn’t get to see who was in the other box hope they don’t wait to reveal it after Neverland arc or at the end of this season Happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fake Belle is gone love all the confessions I don’t mind Snow want a another baby want to see Snow and Charming raise a child and see how Emma feel about having a sister or brother Love that Regina was Ursla you could tell she love playing her like that we got see the real Ursla hope we get to see more of her love that mermaids can swim between realm which makes me think the way to get off Neverland is by water kinda mad that we didn’t see Ariel and Snow scene in present love that Snow is piss at Charming when he try to ecplain and she said Not Now also Snow learn tracking by Ruby aka Red love that Snow can’t keep a secret like Emma confide in Snow about the kiss with Hook love Charming face when he found out also I think Hook only told about Nealfire to the Charmings is because he didn’t want to be the only with the secret if Emma found out Hook knew he can say your parents knew to
So my question is Rumple and Peter Pan are connect so if one dies the other dies to so does that means they are both cut from the same cloth

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From Maii

Hello guys fantastic show as always! 

Ariel was fantastic and no one can do her better justice than Joanna.. I really loved the spin on Ariel and the scenes with Eric and Snow melted my heart.. I think so far this is the story that has stuck the most to the Disney version.. But with a few key changes.. 
The moment she looses her voice and he’s right there but he can’t hear her just kills me (btw did you notice Regina wearing the outfit from Skin Deep?) 
Ariel and Snow’s friendship was great and I really hope we see more of that when everyone gets reunited..
I’ve got no thoughts on the Rumple scene other than I’m glad that FINALLY someone told him dude THAT’S NOT BELLE…
I am an Emma fan beyond anything else and honestly? The woman has suffered enough.. and the face she made when she realizes Neal IS alive is anything but happy.. 
I disagree at the Neal scene it wasn’t sweet I saw it as kind of the opposite.. Like the ex that won’t leave you alone..
She said I hoped you were dead she’s completely ready to move on .. I think we saw a lot of growth on Emma like you know what? You’ve hurt me way too much.. There’s a point of no return and I think Neal crossed it.. 
Telling someone you are going to fight for them after they tell you they are moving on from you makes you the selfish toxic ex who doesn’t want to respect the wishes of the other. In no way shape or form is that romantic.
He says he’ll keep on fighting but when did you start? He never fought for her, he sent her to jail in his place and then he found Tallahassee with Tamara (and we’ve got confirmation that he truly loved Tamara, I loathed Tamara but he loved her and we can’t take that away from the character) and then he realized oh Emma is still there I’m going for her.. When he doesn’t actually know Emma and Emma doesn’t know Neal..I like that’s he’s admitting he did hurt her but I don’t think he has grasped just how much he did..His fear of rejection and of his father was stronger than he’s love for Emma.
I’ve said it before that I like him when he’s not with Emma, I love the character of Neal and the character of Bae but when he’s around Emma only the worst comes out, he treats her poorly, belittles her (oh I never believed you anyway) so I think he deserves his happy ending but it’s not with her.. 

Killian Jones knew from the second Pan told him Neal was alive that his chance was shot to hell (or so he thinks) bc he’s got the worst self esteem on this show.. He thinks he’s undeserving on Emma, that he will never be worthy of her but he’s still going to try his hardest to make sure she’s happy..
Because as we know love is sacrifice.. He sacrificed his happiness to make sure Emma got hers (or what he thinks is her happiness, he’s under the impression that Emma’s TL is Neal when we’ve actually got pretty much a lot of proof that it is not the case).. He knows his heart is going to break but he organizes the rescue anyway 
When Emma and Neal are hugging and they cut to the Charmings and Killian’s reactions, I love Charming’s face because he has this sort of painful expression on like Killian does because he and Killian are sort of friends ( or getting there, we know Charming respects Killian now and sort of trusts him) and he knows that Killian is a good man who loves his daughter so Charming is feeling for him but also for his daughter too because unlike Snow, Charming doesn’t knows how to react yet about Neal. 
Even Snow who is at the moment very pro Neal (which lets be honest it’s mostly because she thinks Neal/Emma are like her and Charming but I think when she finds out the truth she’s going to withdraw her support and go into momma bear mode) if you see her face when they enter the cave and see Neal she turns to look at Killian who has this completely broken expression on his face and then she looks back at the cage and you can see the wheels turning in her head..
More than that we saw that Charming/Snow/Killian didn’t hear Emma’s secret they just saw her speaking to him and then the hug (which I got to say I absolutely adored bc I felt it was kind of him knowing she needed it and it was just great).. So it’s very probable they came to the wrong conclusion 
Everyone talks about Robbie’s acting and it is phenomenal but damn Colin’s subtle movements I think are the best p.. He’s got a way to portray emotion that is beyond amazing.. The little background moments that just tell you all you need to know without saying a word..
http://thecharmingswashbuckler.tumblr.com/post/65962282907 
http://thecharmingswashbuckler.tumblr.com/post/65973556973
http://when-you-re-not-yelling.tumblr.com/post/66020330039/so-lets-talk-about-emma

Once again I loved the show and I look forward to hearing your thoughts
Maii 

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From Emma

I’ve never sent in an email to a podcast before! But anyway, now that they’ve solidified the awkward love triangle between Emma, Hook, and Neil, I kind of wonder if by the end of the season something will happen that will prevent Hook from leaving Neverland….. like some sort of tradeoff with Charming? It makes since because after this season they’ll probably go back to Storybrook or the Enchanted Forest where Hook would be very much out of place. 

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From Awilda

Hi Jeff and Colleen:
 
Love to listen to you guys – you put on a great show. Did you notice the scene when Snow blurted out that Neil was alive that her ears glowed red? Was it just the lighting? It was all I could stare at – I know – I am strange like that – I don’t think that pixie look is for her. Just sayin . . . .
 
Awilda

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From Marilyn

Hi Jeff and Colleen,
Have you seen the video “Spell Block Tango” by Todrick Hall on youTube?
Its a mash-up of  a song from Chicago sung by the evil characters from Disney animated films. I think it is funny and very clever.

Take care,
Marilyn

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From Brad

Hi Jeff and Colleen,
I have just a small list this week because I have some other thoughts I’d like to share as well.
Things I learned from the episode Ariel
#1. The Shadow does impressions.
#2. A dinglehopper can be used as a shiv. 
#3. Peter Pan can identify a fertile woman just by looking at her. 
#4. Camping with the Charming’s would be an awful spinoff.
#5. Always fall in love first before revealing your big secret.
In the beginning of this episode when Snow is looking over the cliff she says to herself, “Really?”  I found this humorous because Emma says things like this all the time, so to hear young Snow say it was great! 
If I’m being honest, the one thing I disliked about this episode was the water scenes. It looked like Ariel and Snow were inside a swimming pool in some shots.  A real scene with a beautiful beach and ocean would be shown but then the closeup shots were obviously not in the same location. It reminded me of those shows where someone is pretending to drive and a screen is used for the background.  I wanted to like everything about this episode but that really took me out of it. I wished they could have done as great of a job as they did with Regina as Ursula. 
Speaking of Regina, for once she was the only one making sense when she refused to go after Neil. Just because he is on the island doesn’t mean they should have put the whole plan to find Henry on hold. This is why Charming did not say anything about the dream shade. They really should have split up the group evenly. Hopefully there are no repercussions for doing this.
I was trying to figure out the timeline when Regina goes after Ariel. I believe it takes place after she visits Rumpelstiltskin in Skin Deep about a deal to be made involving a “certain mermaid”. 
Lastly, I really would have liked to see  some under the sea storyline. I realize most of Ariel’s world revolved around sea creatures but we didn’t even get a mention of King Triton. Now that Ariel is going to Storybrooke in the present they could always do another backstory but I doubt it. If they were going to show it, I think it would have been in this episode. 
That’s all for now

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From Katie in Florida

Hi Jeff, Colleen, and Lady, 

I’ve got a theory that Pan and Rumpel are step-brothers, just because Pan was taunting Rumpel about his father.  As far as who is in the box that can be anybody. It could be Rumpel’s father, which would be very LOST like (Locke and his father). I think whoever or whatever is in the box is going to be a character that has not been introduced yet. 
I really liked the episode, especially when they had to tell their secrets to rescue Neal. It will be interesting to see the consequences of those secrets. 

Katie
From Florida

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This came in after we recorded –

Hi Guys,
I hope this gets in before this up coming podcast.
In regards on how the truths being told in the Echo Cave and the possible damage they can have and reach way beyond the cave, there is a movie from a long time ago that really fits well with this.

The movie was called Talk Radio, about a shock jock and how his life went pretty much into the dumps because of his behavior on the radio. Anyways, he always did a tag line at the end of his show and I have lived my life according to this since then.

“Sticks and stones may break bones, but words cause permanent damage.”

Those that went into the cave are going to live out this particular sentiment in spades. Hooks words will cause himself personal pain and maybe more isolation. Emma’s honesty to Neal while cathartic, still shows they even if they only end up as a parenting team, have a long way to go. With Snow, a moving yet harsh truth that will sting Emma know that she may not be enough for her mother. And Charming? Finally a real dillemma that is around trust and trust is always the center of a marriage.
Neal though, his secret was more like a shot off the port bow, a declaration of intent as you will.

Thanks for your time. 🙂

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3X05 Good Form – Main Show – Not Jack, but Wendy?, King Who?, Cocoon and Star Wars connections.

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Instead of Jack, is it Wendy in the Box? Maybe a True Love of Someone on the island?
Who is the King?
Is the Island removing Hook’s Pirate side?
Is Regina (and the group) learning to play well with each other, and how ill they play out for Pan?
Never judge a book by it’s cover, even if its a Pirate, an Evil Queen, etc, etc.
Neverland is an island of permission, even Regina knows this.
Cocoon and (More) Star Wars connections.
Don’t fall under a sleeping curse, stay awake for this.

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Time on Neverland, Is Hook a Tattle-Tale? Dream Catcher and Storybrooke Pest Control 3X04 Nasty Habits – Main Show

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Teaser: We will be talking about;
Bae’s drawing,
What powers the concept of aging on Neverland,
Grinding slabs,
I put on my Grumpy hat,
We ask the question – Is Hook a tattle-tale?
A Dream Catcher,
Getting rid of pests in Storybrooke and more

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3X04 Nasty Habits – First Thoughts

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Neal untied the overhand knot because of what he learned from Hook.

In a strange way to show love to his son, Rumpel stole a small knife to help Bae sharpen his coal. Thus, helping Bae with his talent and at the same time flexing his “Dark One” terrifying muscles at the man that owned the knife.

Will we ever see the knife again, I wonder?

Rumpel wanted to build a palace for Bae. many have built palaces to the ones they love (The Taj Mahal and more. Check this link: http://weburbanist.com/2010/02/10/architectural-love-story-10-castles-built-for-love/), but Rumpel built it to give Bae freedom – in a palatial prison.

Rumpel used war paint. It reminded me of American Indian war paint, and more recently Johnny Depp as Tonto in The Lone Ranger.

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Rumpel described Belle as a vision, but is it really Belle – or Pan?

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Have there been other visions that Rumpel have seen? Will he use it to speak to others in the future?

The Lost Boys fort was drawn in sand. Classic war “breaking people out” or “Escape plan” or “Battle plan” in movies.

Hook shot Charming a look when the group was talking about Dream Shade, and wanting him to tell Snow.

The only time anyone can leave Neverland is when Pan allows it, except for Bae (and Rumpel, too?).

Lana had some great lines “Did you learn that from Bail Bondsperson School?”

Here are some screen shots of Neal’s cave on Neverland.

Stars on the ceiling

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Other various wall screenshots

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Cindy from our Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/ouatpodcast) added these incredible thoughts: “Drawn on Bae’s cave walls was P & S. These were the letters Hook carved on the Jolly Rodger when he was teaching Baelfire to sail. Port & Starboard. Also, we’re the people he drew, the Darlings? What building was that? His home…Also, I liked that Baelfire loved to draw, like his mother. He was drawing a picture when Rumple entered to give him that knife, and how that tied into his cave drawings… I thought it was interesting that when Rumple cast that sleeping curse over all the lost boys, Rumples spell didn’t effect Peter, thus the need for squid ink. Poor Henry, Pan caught him when he was VERY vulnerable, just being woken from the sleeping spell. Remember, Rumple warned Neal it’s dangerous to wake him before the spell has worn off… If, in the beginning, children only came to Peter’s Neverland in their dreams, would that make Peter The Dream Catcher? Reminding me of ( I think, Tallahassee?) Neal once gave Emma a map so they could find a “home”. Now, Neal seems to have given her a new map leading to “home”. But where might that map lead? Enchanted Forest? Storybrook? Wendy? Tallahassee? New York? Tink took a watch from Tamara’s body. Why a watch? Was it Neal’s watch? It didn’t look like a woman’s watch. Maybe it was my imagination, but I saw lots of little tidbits from Neal and Emma’s past together in this episode.”

Here is the scrawling of P and S from “And Straight On ‘Til Morning” that we forgot to mention as a connection.

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Pan gave Hook a portal. Is Pan growing beans on the Neverland island?

Colleen noticed a lot of similarities with this episode and the book, Lord of the Flies.

Neal left Neverland without Pan’s permission – how? We know he knew a sneaky way to get to Neverland. I am very interested to see how he got away from Neverland.

Rumpel said that he would sacrifice his life to save Henry, but does he mean it?

Rumpel said “Magic led him to the hamlet (Shown in the episode),” so I would guess that his “magic tracking spell” works similarly to Tink’s Pixie dust trail that led her to Regina’s true love in the tavern.

The Pied Piper is introduced. He used a pan flute to lure children to follow it.

Neal showed that not only can a person use a (Conch) shell hear the ocean, but when sounded, the ocean can hear the shell “call”. Brilliant idea! Neal uses it call a squid (a la 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea).

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As the squid came ashore, Neal asked Rumpel to extract some squid ink that could, according to Neal it has the power to immobilize the most magical creatures.

Hook/Charming exchange. Charming seems to accept the fate of his death and urges Hook (as a final wish) to just save Henry.

Flint and a Hook can light a torch. Hook can be on Survivor!

@ktodd1116 on Twitter reminded us that “Did you know the show Survivor was based on #LordoftheFlies?” Amazing! I had forgotten that. Thanks for letting us know! 🙂

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The shot of Rumpel on the roof reminded me of many movies. That’s all I got for that.

To Catch a Thief shot that Colleen mentioned.

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Pan Flute. Peter Pan played the Pan Flute to be the Pied Piper. That’s a lot of P’s.

If Pan give Hook a portal, pan must have used them a lot to gather children to go and dance in the forest. Pan also mentioned that he would take some of the children to Neverland.

Pan also mentioned “visit in dreams”. Is it in the fire room, and is it anyone who is sleeping? Cue the creepy similarity to Nightmare on Elm Street.

Certain boys can hear the flute, as only certain people could hear the cries on the island. Only the “Unloved, Unwanted…” could hear.

Henry initially said he was not like Pan or the Lost Boys (Turns out Rumpel gave Pan the idea to call them that. Rumpel is involved with everything!).

Pan’s pipe is enchanted. Who enchanted it and how?

When Henry didn’t hear the pipe at first, I thought that Pan didn’t blow into the pipe.

Another funny Lana line about the Lost Boys using the colander to make Pasta, or should they be happy that Neal made a nightlight. Classic Regina stuff tonight.

Guessing games.

Pan is magical. Who was he and how did he become magical?

Neal not coating the tip of the arrow was one of the brilliant twists tonight.

Self Preservation is a nasty habit. On the flip side, sacrifice is a noble thing.

Pan wasn’t always immortal. Is there any Dark One knife? How did Pan become immortal?

Rumpel mentioned seeing people’s “true nature”. It reminds me of “denying who you really are” scenes.

Neal was worried that if Rumpel did the right thing today, what about tomorrow. Rumpel seemed like he wanted to change, but Neal didn’t trust him.

Rumpel wanted his ‘Redemption’. “Have faith and believe in me”

Neal used the old “Squid ink on the back of a leaf” trick to freeze Rumple.

Emma never stopped loving Neal.

“Never break into a place unless you know how to get out”

It was an interesting exchange between Neal and Pan about Neal winning by leaving the island and Pan asking, “but where are you now?”.

Pan now reset the board and a new game began.

Belle believes in Rumpel, but is it really Belle?

Pan tells Henry “We can be your family,” like Hook did.

Henry could hear the music, but is it a ruse to “play” along and trick Pan to get off the island?

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3X01 The Heart of the Truest Believer – Main Show

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Ratings:

From TV Ratings by the Numbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/04/l3-ratings-abcs-once-upon-a-time-emerges-as-sundays-top-broadcast-in-adults-18-49-revenge-is-the-nights-biggest-overall-gainer/206981/) – Updated on 10/4/13
10.3 million viewers

By Comparison (from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Once_Upon_a_Time_episodes#cite_note-52)) –
S2 Premiere (Broken) 11.36 Million Viewers,
S1 Pilot 12.93 Million Viewers

News:

– Happy Birthday to Malini!

Over the Summer Happenings –

– We send #BigLove and Congratulations to Lana Parrilla for her engagement to Fred. (Link: http://www.timesofisrael.com/scandal-actors-gush-about-their-trip-in-israel/ )

– Jmo starred in a movie called “Some Girls” that is now available on Vimeo and iTunes. (Link: http://somegirlsfilm.com/ )

– Ginnifer starred in a National Geographic Channel movie called “Killing Kennedy,” in which she plays Jackie Kennedy. The film premieres on Sunday, November 10. (Link: http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/09/12/killing-kennedy-teaser-trailer-hits-the-web/ )

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Jeff and Colleen’s thoughts:

How did Pan/The Lost Boys communicate with Greg and Tamara? How did He/They deliver the “communicator”? How did they know to light a signal fire?

How did Greg and Tamara know where Neverland was? According to Neal, if you think of a place you go there. How did they know?

Tamara was surprised they made it. I would assume they’ve never made that or any trip through the portal. Who taught them about portal travel?

The Charming family seem to be pulling apart, but the more dastardly and dashing characters are working together more easily.

Bae’s Sword. Did Hook teach him to fight?

Can Team 7 or Mother Superior somehow send some pixie dust to Henry? To give them a way to escape?

Mermaids seem to be the first line of defense of the Neverland island.

How kooky is it that all the exposition from Greg and Tamara about The Home Office led to it to be revealed and now (it seems) nullified?

Rumpel referred to Pan the way most people referred to Rumpel (Especially Regina, “There’s always something more with you”)

Wizard of Oz – Crystal Ball

Will Emma rescue all the Lost Boys (as she connects with him as an orphan), or just Henry?

Will our heroes have to complete games to gain control over Pan and escape the island?

Rumpel’s connection to Neverland. Collecting babies.

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From Marcie

Jeff and Colleen,
 
My friend and I were talking last night after the premiere and we had a thought about peter pan and his shadow and would like to get your thoughts on our theory. We were wondering, since there is a human pan now, why does the shadow get the kids and not the boy? We thought that even peter is trapped because Wendy said once you step foot on neverland you cannot leave, but maybe your shadow can? Please let us know what you think. Thanks.

Marcie

From Lorie

I don’t know why I didn’t catch this last season, but the thought just occurred to me and is really bothering me.  Hopefully someone will have some insight for me.
 
We know that until Emma arrived and decided to stay, the clock didn’t move.  toward the end of season 2, it showed Regina walking through town and the day kept playing itself over and over with no real changes.  So, I guess we are to assume that these characters were stuck in the same day for 28 years.  Now to the part that bothers me.  We know that at some point before Emma arrived, Mary Margerete and Dr Whale had a fling, Dr Hopper was treating Henry and he would not have started that when henry first arrived.  it had to be at some point later in time.  also, we know that at some time in the 28 years, Red tried to leave, but Granny had a heart attack. 
 
so did time really stand still and repeat itself over and over, like groundhog day.  Or did their lives go on during this 28 years, its just that they didn’t really change much?
 
Really looking forward to the new season.  Have missed the podcast.

Lorie

From Holly

Hey Jeff and Colleen,

I have to say that I really enjoyed the season opener for Once Upon A Time. There were so many great scenes in this episode that I’ll only touch on a few of them. Loved the scenes in Enchanted Forest with Mulan, Phillip, Aurora, and Neal. Nice to see that Neal made it through the portal okay. Though if I were Neal I don’t know if I wouldn’t have been saying that I was Rumpelstiltskin’s son right away. Cool that Rumpelstiltskin hid a few of his magical items in the Dark Castle and that they could only be found by Neal. Though I am wondering how Neal knew about the Dark Castle. Maybe Rumple told him about it off screen while they were in Storybrooke, or Neal heard about it from others during his travels. Greg and Tamara didn’t last too long in Neverland.  Be careful who you work for and like Henry said, you need to ask more questions. Tamara actually thinking that Rumple would forgive her for what she did to his son was wishful thinking. So glad the two of them are gone. The scenes between Henry and Pan were bone chilling. When the Lost Boys were circling around Henry with Pan, I was so hoping that Rumple would have shown up and did his best Molly Weasley impersonation/ improvisation of  not my Grandson….. Colleen, I agree with you about how cruel Pan’s games will be. I’m hoping not too cruel. I’ll wrap it up here. I can’t wait to see what the rest of the season has in store. Looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts and everyone elses.

Give Lady a treat from me.

Big Love to everybody.

Holly from Wisconsin

From Maii

Just listened to the first thoughts on 3×01.. and first of all thank you for not hating on Hook… I’ve had to stop listening to some podcasts bc of their excessive Hook bashing.. 
Just want to point out some things 

One thing you mentioned Hook looks at Emma like a daughter, yeah I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure if a dad looked at a daughter like that it would be highly incestuous but he does care about her. No one can deny that (no matter how much they want to)  just look at the way he looks when she’s talking:
1. The scene with rumple and Emma- Killian looks murderous and worried
2. The almost drowning, He looks terrified and then he looks relieved when she woke up
3. When he is talking about the happy ending he looks directly at where Emma is sitting when he’s done talking
4. The scene with the drinks, he knew she needed closure, and that she would be all in knots about Rumple’s words so he went to cheer her up.
5. Her speech at the end he looks seriously impressed and his “I quite fancy you from time to time when you’re not yelling at me” is a way of stating his feelings after she almost died. (Emma almost died in the same spot Milah died) 
& Bae did go to our world when he fell in the portal, he ended up with the Darlings then sacrificed himself for Wendy’s brothers and that’s how he ended up in Neverland.

Your podcast is wonderful and I really enjoy it keep up the good work. 
Maii

From Brad

Hello Jeff and Colleen, it’s great to have the podcast back! 
Here’s the list of things I learned from this weeks episode, The Heart of the Truest Believer.
#1. Henry was born at 8:15.
#2. The electrical surge after Henry’s birth would suggest he is magical too.
#3. Sand is not an effective replacement for batteries.
#4. Neverland is the Motherload of magic.
#5. Rumpelstiltskin always finds time for a wardrobe change.
#6. Snow and Charming are Infuriating optimistic.
#7. Neverland is a place where imaginations run wild.
#8. Sharks and whales and kraken’s, oh my! Have nothing on Mermaids.
#9. Hook fancy’s Emma when she’s not yelling at him.
#10. Portals take you wherever you think.
#11. Mulan and Aurora are much more likeable than the first season.
#12. Robin Hood had a major face transplant since the last time we saw him. 
#13. It doesn’t take much for Aurora to give up.
#14. It is much easier to get someone to hate something than to believe 
#15. Evil Peter Pan and Felix are amazingly wicked!

P.S. I really thought the music from Mark Isham this week was great! 

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