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Where is Anna? Is the Shepherd Crook like the Dagger? Fathers, Putting Up Walls, 7 Samurai 4X02 White Out – First Thoughts – 243

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First Thoughts

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Episode Name: White Out

Episode Number: 243

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/243

Notes:

Tonight’s episode is written by Jane Espenson

Until we are together, no one leaves this town

Frozen Wall around Storybrooke. It’s like a frozen barrier spell. It’s like Zelena’s green dome over Regina’s castle. Can they go under Storybrooke to escape? Did Elsa run the wall around the water’s edge? Remember Ariel could get around the barrier spell, too? Could they get out via the mines?

David, from Rock of Ages.

Kristoff knew David.

Joan, a shout out to the painting Anna referred to in the animated feature.

Bo Peep.

Sheep mobile?

Babies dream of – Bull fighting and Lazer tag.

Emma likes peanut butter! Yes!

How to get over a breakup – Chocolate, DVDs, ice cream, red wine.

Warning crow (Raven) with a message. Note: Snow seemed to have a connection with birds, but not all animals like in the animated feature. There was a Raven in Snow White and the Seven Dwarves in the Witches laboratory, but the Raven seems to be more like the Raven in Sleeping Beauty. The last time we’ve seen a bird carrying a message was a carrier pigeon (7:15AM).

Emma’s wearing a tan leather jacket and wearing a radio. Remember the radio she shared with Henry.

She doesn’t want to see me.

Ice wall shut down the power in Storybrooke.

Sheriff Charming is getting calls from all over. I wondered if Miss Ginger called, too.

New Operation name. Nightshade, Blackthorn.

“Putting up walls” figuratively and physically.

Grumpy, Happy and Granny.

Mayor Snow!

Hook answers my question, it goes all the way around. Thanks, Adam and Eddy.

Charming and Hook’s talk, Emma is “Not some conquest”, “I wouldn’t risk my life for someone I see as loot”. The ship trading, portal creating and coming back.

Elsa’s magic looks like Emma’s light magic.

Ruth.

Bo Peep (One shepherd meets another shepherd) took classes on extortion from Rumpelstiltskin. BP’s magic is similar to Rumpel’s Dark One magic. Is her Shepherd Crook or stick like the dagger? Work off your debts like slaves.

You’re branded now – You’re now one of my sheep. This stick is how I find my flock.

BP is the most powerful warlord (Oriental term ala Star Wars) in the region.

Anna now is pulled into David’s quest.

BP’s army? Sheep?

Anna “secret mission” another shout out to Star Wars,

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Secret mission? What plans? What are you talking about? I’m not getting in there!

Anna is a warrior like Arya from Game of Thrones?

Hook’s working for Emma.

You go, Anna! A little Anakin and Obi Wan spinning.

Don’t give up.

Surviving isn’t living.

Elsa needed a push. Rumpel said Regina needed a push.

David finally talked about his Father. His parents fought a lot, about his drinking. Like Zelena’s father.

“I will beat this” “I have to be better for the boy. I have to be different”

2 week trip/bender, another mention of a 2 week trip.

Father’s struggles affect the children. FTL and Storybrooke.

Hit undo on that.

“Dad, can you hear me?”

Bring Anna to me before she freezes this

Storybrooke Power Company

Marco helping with the

Snow really is in a bad mood! Buy a flashlight!

The necklace reminds me of the Chalice in Last Crusade

Elsa can’t control her magic, like Emma.

Born or Cursed, Grand Pabbi asked that?

Parents don’t always help.

Shutting out, hurts people.

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Big Love

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Jesse Hutch (Peter) Audio Update. Is Rumpel the Apprentice or the Master? Who’s hat is that? Who is Elsa’s real Mother? 4X01 A Tale of Two Sisters – Main Show – #242

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Main Show

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Episode Name: A Tale of Two Sisters

Episode Number: 242

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/242

News:

Views from the Studio:

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Civitas – The civitas is not just the collective body of all the citizens, it is the contract binding them all together, because of which each is a civis.

Email points:

Aleana

What if Hans found the letter Elsa and Anna mother wrote about original Snow Queen?

My theories is we will found out who originally own the sorceress’s hat but we will also found out it will now belong to Henry because he has the heart of truest believer

Dan from Boston

Welcome back Jeff and Colleen!! Good to hear you two at it “Once” again!!

Loved the opening episode, and I had a few thoughts to share with you.

(1) Funny, Jeff, that you thought Grumpy was Han Solo from a line of dialogue. I thought of him for a different reason. . . . . both characters were at some point “frozen” (ice, and carbonite!!).

(2) Yeah, you’re right, “pimp w/o a limp” dropping the needle, instead of spinning straw into gold, he’s now spinning records!! BTW, Colleen, my kids thought of Mary Poppins as well with the snapping of the fingers! Had a question about that scene, was that the first time on the show that a music theme was directly lifted from the animated movie? I don’t remember hearing “You can fly” when Henry and Pan flew, or “When you wish upon a star” before “Blue” descends to grant a wish.

(3) Also from the Rum/Belle scene, Mr. Gold was as smooth as a certain Star Wars character, “Well what have we HERE?? I’m Lando Calrissian, administrator of this facility, and who might YOU be?” 🙂 He even had on the blue to match Lando’s cape. All he needed was a little splash of Colt 45. . . . . “Works every time. .. .!!!” Certainly a far cry from Salacious Crumb from last season, eh Jeff?

(4) Finally, the wizard’s hat is definitely from Sorcerer’s Apprentice!! Between the gold pale it came from, to the stars/galaxies, right down to the background music that was played, “dum dum. . . . . .dum dee dee dum.. . . . dum dum….. . .dum dee dee dum. . . .dumm”. The only Star Wars question I have is this, is Gold “the master, or the apprentice” of that hat? (Funny thought, Gold as Mickey Mouse!!).

That’s all for now! Can’t wait to go though this new season with you two! If the first half of it is Frozen themed, does this mean we’ll have a Christmas/”holiday” special (oooo, yet ANOTHER S.W. theme, HOLIDAY SPECIAL???). We’ll see!

Peace to you Jeff and Colleen!
Dan from Boston

Brad

Even though it felt like you both never left because of the continuation of Disney Once Again, it’s still great to have the return of the Once Upon A Time Fan podcast. This first episode was excellent and with a new season begins the things I learned in A Tale of Two Sisters.

1). The Storybrooke Beautification Society is the group who gets stuck cleaning up all the messes.

2). David’s amnesia seems to resurface only when Regina’s character is in question.

3). No beer is worth having Sleepy as your designated driver.

4). When you have a sister, you’re never alone.

5). Sydney cannot escape being held captive no matter what realm he is in. Genie to Mirror to Prison to Mirror

6). Rumpel may have taught “The Fonz” his cool moves.

7). Streaming movies is now available in Storybrooke.

8). Never make an enemy with a man who has 12 angry brothers.

9). The laughing gargoyle has been vandalized.

10). The town needs a new radio station……………hmmmmmm

OBSERVATIONS:

REGINA

I had sympathy for Regina in this episode and wasn’t disappointed like I have been in the past. I understand that Robin was doing the honorable thing and that she was desperate to get her true love back. This is the real trial and although she speaks of going back in time and killing Marian, seeing herself through the mirror, sentencing an innocent woman to death while being called a monster, seemed to have had an effect on her. She told Emma that’s the person I was, not who I am. We all get to a point where we say things in the heat of the moment but then change our minds once we’ve reflected on it.

I also agreed with her decision to find the books author. First of all, because we have ALL been asking the question, “who wrote the book”, since the beginning and secondly, why should villains always be written to never have a happy ending? If Regina is right, the book may be keeping her from happiness no matter how much she tries to change. It keeps throwing situations at her to get her back on the villain path. So I’m all in for her quest to find the author and I don’t feel this is coming from a villainess standpoint but if there is maliciousness behind her actions, I feel this experience will change her for the better. Also when villains do get their “evil” happy endings, they’re never actually happy, think Welcome to Storybrooke. Giving them what they want, may actually reveal to themselves it’s not what they need. If the author of the book could see how much Regina has changed, maybe he can undo the force that’s keeping her from a real happy ending.

ANNA

Anna has the same sentiment every Oncer has after a new secret is revealed, “We have one answer and more questions, that’s a start”.

YEN SIN

Yen Sin’s hat is drawn with a design of a moon and stars in Disney films. The hat that Rumpel found had real stars and a solar system on it. The hat was also stored in a bucket that looked just like what the brooms were using in Fantasia. If it turns out to be Merlin instead, I feel this would be a real missed opportunity to use a character none of us were expecting ever to see.

THE BOOK

The book having power and being immutable makes perfect sense. It explains how nothing was changed in present day except for the books additions in the finale. Somehow everything went back exactly the way it is was even after Hook and Emma made so many changes. It bothered me at first but this explanation reveals that the book was guiding the events to follow one path.

RUMPELSTILTSKIN

Rumple is now tempted with the hat after he vowed to Bae at his graveside to be a better man.
It’s almost as if something is guiding him to these temptations, maybe Regina was right about the books power.

THEORIES:

ELSA

I had the same thought as you Jeff while watching this episode. I also believe that Elsa may have been adopted and that her powers come from a woman with similar abilities, maybe a queen perhaps? Their parents said, “Anna and Elsa must know the truth, it is the only thing that will save them”. This indicates that both Elsa and Anna are in some type of danger. Whatever their parents went to Mist Haven for it appears they found information that puts their children at risk. If this other “Ice Queen” is somehow related to Elsa, she may come back to reclaim her. Another thought is, what if this queen gains power by draining ones who posses her similar ability?
Just like what Rumpelstiltskin did to the Seer. Who knows, maybe Rumple wanted her power and that’s why she was in the urn. So many possibilities!

THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK

My theory and hope is that Sorcerer Master Yen Sid wrote the book. Only a powerful sorcerer could make a book that doesn’t change even when the timeline has been altered. It makes sense that the person who wrote the book would be someone that was modeled after such a influential storyteller as Walt Disney. If it wasn’t for him, we wouldn’t even know half of the beloved characters that we do today. Sure the stories were around already but Walt brought them to life and filled our hearts with precious memories. Merlin has been done before so please give us something fresh and new!

BURNING QUESTIONS:

Could Rumple be playing the part of the apprentice and if so, will he need Yen Sid to clean up his mess?

How did Marion really die and will fate try and reclaim her life?If it wasn’t for Regina, Marshmallow would have crushed her.

Were Anna and Elsa’s parents coming back from seeing Yen Sid when their ship sank and did he happen to tell them about how their children were in danger?

Was the inanimate stone troll in Storybrooke Pabbie? Who do we know that has that kind of magic?

When Marshmallow goes to “water the flowers”, is the snow leftover yellow or white?

That’s it for now, have a great podcast!

– Brad

Voicemail points:

@jesse_hutch

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1237948/

JoyRide 3

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3138376/

Cedar Cove

http://www.hallmarkchannel.com/cedarcove

My Boyfriend’s Dogs

http://www.hallmarkchannel.com/myboyfriendsdogs

Podcast plugs:

Disney Vault Talk

@DisneyVaultTalk

Big Love

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4X01 A Tale of Two Sisters – First Thoughts – 241

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First Thoughts

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Episode Name: A Tale of Two Sisters

Episode Number: 241

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/241

Notes:

The story begins “A long time ago”, but no specific time associated to it. A lot like Star Wars, except for the “in a galaxy far, far, away” part.

The Queen put a note in the bottle. What does the note say? Does it clarify what was in the diary/

Elsa finally allowed Anna to marry Kristoff. Elsa isn’t entirely happy about it, but she is allowing it.

Who is on the Storybrooke Beautification Society? Mice? Fairies? Helpful animals in a forest?

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The discussion between Emma, doing the “right” thing of saving a life and how it effects Regina. Decision can have ripple effects on other people, good or bad.

Even though Regina has made strides to be good and to be a hero, she still pays for the mistakes of the past. It’s similar to someone with a drinking problem making good choices now, then someone who hasn’t been around them during their time of making good choices, the person trying to be better is still know as the person with the problem by someone who hasn’t been around them lately.

When situations like Marion calling her a “monster” happen, it can make you not want to try to make good decisions to do better, because you will always be know by what you’ve done, not what you are doing (better) now.

Robin is in a tough spot, between being in love with Regina and following the vow of marriage to his (now alive) wife and the code of trying to be a noble person.

We discuss the difference of how viewers of Once Upon a Time recated to David Nolan’s actions with Mary Margaret in season 1 and Robin’s actions now.

Except for Robin, no one stood up for the new Regina to Marion. Charming, Emma, Henry didn’t. Snow was concerned for her, but didn’t stand up for her to Marion.

It’s good to have a designated driver when you’ve been drinking, but be wary of a “sleepy” designated driver.

Why didn’t Elsa find the book in the attic desk before? It appears she searched and found their Mother’s dress?

Was the previous Queen of Arendelle, Elsa’s Mother or was she the adoptive Mother of Elsa? Was Elsa’s real Mother the White Witch from Narnia?

Elsa still hasn’t learned to control her power, fear still causes it to react with her.

Elsa read too much into the entry in her Mother’s diary. Part of the arc of Season 4A is why her parents went to Misthaven, and who they went to see. Rumpel? Merlin? Yen Sid? Someone else?

Who originally owned the mansion that Belle happened upon for their honeymoon? Was it a trap?

Is Sidney manipulating Regina by showing her what he wants her to see for his own purposes?

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Big Love

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OUAT Season 3 BluRay Set Review – 240

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Podcast Episode 240

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/240

Thanks to ABC and Disney for providing a review copy of the OUAT Season 3 BluRay discs.

Do you have to own the discs of Once Upon a Time? Can’t you just stream them?

There are many ways that people can get/view/consume TV shows, but we think there is still a place to own either DVD or BluRay discs. The quality of the look of the episodes and the ownership of the episodes in either DVD or BluRay will allow you to enjoy the episodes without the worry about a legal streaming service ever removing OUAT to make room for another show. That plus, some of the extras still make Season 3 a must own.

If you haven’t already, order your OUAT Season 3 DVD/BluRay sets with our affiliate link: http://www.onceuponatimepodcast.com/ouatS3

Commentaries

In a way, the commentaries are (at this point) taking the place of the Official OUAT Podcast. Good insights included and it was a plus to have Robert and Colin, but we wish that Robbie Kay, Rebecca Mader or others in the cast could have been included as in years past.

Deleted Scenes
I felt Mr. Van Winkel would have been a great scene to leave in the episode, because I want to believe that there are many fairy tale characters throughout the OUAT storyline. By leaving in this scene, you wouldn’t have to announce a new character reveal, you would know that any character is possible.

There were many deleted scenes that (to me) are worth owning the discs for.

Bloopers
I wouldn’t consider this segment bloopers, I would consider this “the goofiest moments” of them all. Fun, but not bloopers.

Wicked Villians
I loved the insight into what makes a villain, or on the flip side, a hero. Peter Pan and Zelena were missing, and I felt that they should have been included, since they were central villians to the A and B arc of Season 3.

Tale of Ariel
This was my favorite. I enjoyed the parts of creating and bringing Ariel to ‘Once Upon a Time’.

Disc 1

1 “The Heart of the Truest Believer”
2 “Lost Girl” Commentary with Andrew Chambliss and Kalinda Vazquez
3 “Quite a Common Fairy”
4 “Nasty Habits”
5 “Good Form”
Bonus Feature – Commentary “Lost Girl”

Disc 2

6 “Ariel”
7 “Dark Hollow”
8 “Think Lovely Thoughts” Commentary by Robert Carlyle, David H. Goodman, and Robert Hull
9 “Save Henry”
10 “The New Neverland”
Bonus Feature – Commentary “Think Lovely Thoughts”

Disc 3

11 “Going Home”
12 “New York City Serenade”
13 “Witch Hunt”
14 “The Tower”
* No Bonus Features on this disc

Disc 4

15 “Quiet Minds”
16 “It’s Not Easy Being Green”
17 “The Jolly Roger” Commentary with Colin O’Donoghue and David H. Goodman
18 “Bleeding Through”
Bonus Features – Commentary “The Jolly Roger”

Disc 5

19 “A Curious Thing”
20 “Kansas”
21 “Snow Drifts”
22 “There’s No Place Like Home” Commentary with Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz
Bonus Features;
– Commentary “There’s No Place Like Home”
– Wicked Villains: What makes the villains of Once Upon A Time tick? These complicated characters are not only wicked, evil and dastardly but sometimes heroic, charming and brave. The actors who embody these bad guys and the writers who create them take an in depth look at the show’s interpretation of everyone’s favorite foes.
– The Tale of Ariel: Follow the tale of everyone’s favorite mermaid, Ariel, played by Joanna Garcia, as we track the character’s development and story throughout the season. We will see the development of her look, track her story and watch her introduction to the other characters of Storybrooke/Fairytale Land.
– Blu-ray Exclusive Featurette, Inside the Writer’s Room: The Next Big Character – Get an inside look into the secret chambers of the writers of Once Upon a Time.
– Deleted Scenes

Mr Van Winkle: 1 Minute 08 Seconds
A Helping Hook: 1 Minute 09 seconds
Father of the Bride: 1 Minute 27 seconds
A Helping Hook 2: 50 Seconds
Baby Gift: 3 Minutes 41 seconds
Force Fed: 37 seconds
Connected: 58 Seconds.
Princes Leia: 50 seconds.
Liar: 40 seconds.

– The Fairest Bloopers of Them All

DisneyOnceAgain – Frozen – 239

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Podcast Episode 239

Show notes can be found at:

http://onceuponatimepodcast.com/239

Disney Once Again notes:

I keep thinking the opening song was from Lilo and Stitch’s Hawaiian Roller Coaster Ride.

Ice Worker’s intro great peek into the Norwegian life and the background of Kristoff and Sven, also giving clues to the story we will see.

Ice layer – breaking through. The two layers. People have use for the ice, if it’s controlled and cut to manageable pieces. The song alludes to the land’s frozen heart worth mining. Ice has magic (To preserve, stop time of decay), the song says. Watch your step, let it go! Stronger than 100 men.

The Frozen Heart (Ice Worker’s Song) lyrics
Born of cold and winter air
And mountain rain combining
This icy force both foul and fair
Has a frozen heart worth mining

Cut through the heart, cold and clear
Strike for love and strike for fear
See the beauty sharp and sheer
Split the ice apart
And break the frozen heart

Beautiful, powerful, dangerous, cold
Ice has a magic can’t be controlled
Stronger than one, stronger than ten
Stronger than a hundred men

Born of cold and winter air
And mountain rain combining
This icy force both foul and fair
Has a frozen heart worth mining

Cut through the heart, cold and clear
Strike for love and strike for fear
There’s beauty and there’s danger here
Split the ice apart
Beware the frozen heart

Little Anna is like Lady, “The skies awake, so I’m awake”.

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The little Anna and Elsa are so cute. Little Anna reminded me of Agnes in Despicable Me. Anna knows just how to get Elsa out of bed.

The empty hall became a playroom with Elsa’s ice magic. We see Olaf for the first time. We see bits of situations we will see later; Anna sliding down snowy hills, falling into snow, going from one snowy hill to another, then when Elsa slipped and couldn’t magically build a snow hill for her to land on, she quickly show an ice bolt at Anna and injured her. The hair color change is a physical sign of something deeper changing.

It’s interesting that the King knew exactly what to do and where to go. OUAT bit: The floor that the map landed on looked like the floor in Rumpel’s study. He had a book and a map to go to the trolls. Had he gone there before? Why? With who? The King mentioned that Elsa was born with the power. OUAT bit: Pabbie removed all memories of Elsa’s magic, and only leave the fun memories. There were many potions and curses in OUAT that would block or remove certain memories. Instead of learning to control

The storm scene was incredible.

The stones in the burial scene reminded me of Stonehenge or rune stones.

Kristoff’s Sven voice is funny

Open up the gates, like Willy Wonka.

All the points of most little girls; Queen, princess, coronation day, opening the gates and people from everywhere are coming to see you.

Another Princess sing a song out a window.

Elsa’s coronation outfit is very British.

First time in forever; Anna fun expectation, Elsa anxious, worry and fear.

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Big News for #Oncers that live near Orange County, California!

Unfortunately, we will not be able to attend. We will be on a cruise (Paid for by my company.), but we have donated some cool raffle prizes;
the OUAT Season 3 WonderCon OUAT panel giveaway poster, and
an Elsa is Coming giveaway button from Disneyland, as well as other goodies!

Dave and Buster’s at the Outlets at Orange, California is hosting an Once Upon a Time Season 4 Premiere Viewing Party on 9/28/14. Doors open at 7:00PM! View the premiere episode on a large screen, costume contest, food and drink specials, raffles, and more!

Secret Code Phrase! If you attend and tell the party host this phrase “Once is Frozen” you will get a raffle ticket for another chance for cool prizes!

Here is the link to let them know you are coming > http://www.onceuponatimepodcast.com/ouatdbs4

I want to thank Maria for putting on this great event for Oncers! Please thank Maria for us!

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Thanks to Paul Barrie, host of Window to the Magic for his thoughts on “Frozen”

http://windowtothemagic.com/

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