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3X04 Nasty Habits – First Thoughts

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Neal untied the overhand knot because of what he learned from Hook.

In a strange way to show love to his son, Rumpel stole a small knife to help Bae sharpen his coal. Thus, helping Bae with his talent and at the same time flexing his “Dark One” terrifying muscles at the man that owned the knife.

Will we ever see the knife again, I wonder?

Rumpel wanted to build a palace for Bae. many have built palaces to the ones they love (The Taj Mahal and more. Check this link: http://weburbanist.com/2010/02/10/architectural-love-story-10-castles-built-for-love/), but Rumpel built it to give Bae freedom – in a palatial prison.

Rumpel used war paint. It reminded me of American Indian war paint, and more recently Johnny Depp as Tonto in The Lone Ranger.

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Rumpel described Belle as a vision, but is it really Belle – or Pan?

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Have there been other visions that Rumpel have seen? Will he use it to speak to others in the future?

The Lost Boys fort was drawn in sand. Classic war “breaking people out” or “Escape plan” or “Battle plan” in movies.

Hook shot Charming a look when the group was talking about Dream Shade, and wanting him to tell Snow.

The only time anyone can leave Neverland is when Pan allows it, except for Bae (and Rumpel, too?).

Lana had some great lines “Did you learn that from Bail Bondsperson School?”

Here are some screen shots of Neal’s cave on Neverland.

Stars on the ceiling

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Other various wall screenshots

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Cindy from our Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/ouatpodcast) added these incredible thoughts: “Drawn on Bae’s cave walls was P & S. These were the letters Hook carved on the Jolly Rodger when he was teaching Baelfire to sail. Port & Starboard. Also, we’re the people he drew, the Darlings? What building was that? His home…Also, I liked that Baelfire loved to draw, like his mother. He was drawing a picture when Rumple entered to give him that knife, and how that tied into his cave drawings… I thought it was interesting that when Rumple cast that sleeping curse over all the lost boys, Rumples spell didn’t effect Peter, thus the need for squid ink. Poor Henry, Pan caught him when he was VERY vulnerable, just being woken from the sleeping spell. Remember, Rumple warned Neal it’s dangerous to wake him before the spell has worn off… If, in the beginning, children only came to Peter’s Neverland in their dreams, would that make Peter The Dream Catcher? Reminding me of ( I think, Tallahassee?) Neal once gave Emma a map so they could find a “home”. Now, Neal seems to have given her a new map leading to “home”. But where might that map lead? Enchanted Forest? Storybrook? Wendy? Tallahassee? New York? Tink took a watch from Tamara’s body. Why a watch? Was it Neal’s watch? It didn’t look like a woman’s watch. Maybe it was my imagination, but I saw lots of little tidbits from Neal and Emma’s past together in this episode.”

Here is the scrawling of P and S from “And Straight On ‘Til Morning” that we forgot to mention as a connection.

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Pan gave Hook a portal. Is Pan growing beans on the Neverland island?

Colleen noticed a lot of similarities with this episode and the book, Lord of the Flies.

Neal left Neverland without Pan’s permission – how? We know he knew a sneaky way to get to Neverland. I am very interested to see how he got away from Neverland.

Rumpel said that he would sacrifice his life to save Henry, but does he mean it?

Rumpel said “Magic led him to the hamlet (Shown in the episode),” so I would guess that his “magic tracking spell” works similarly to Tink’s Pixie dust trail that led her to Regina’s true love in the tavern.

The Pied Piper is introduced. He used a pan flute to lure children to follow it.

Neal showed that not only can a person use a (Conch) shell hear the ocean, but when sounded, the ocean can hear the shell “call”. Brilliant idea! Neal uses it call a squid (a la 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea).

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As the squid came ashore, Neal asked Rumpel to extract some squid ink that could, according to Neal it has the power to immobilize the most magical creatures.

Hook/Charming exchange. Charming seems to accept the fate of his death and urges Hook (as a final wish) to just save Henry.

Flint and a Hook can light a torch. Hook can be on Survivor!

@ktodd1116 on Twitter reminded us that “Did you know the show Survivor was based on #LordoftheFlies?” Amazing! I had forgotten that. Thanks for letting us know! 🙂

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The shot of Rumpel on the roof reminded me of many movies. That’s all I got for that.

To Catch a Thief shot that Colleen mentioned.

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Pan Flute. Peter Pan played the Pan Flute to be the Pied Piper. That’s a lot of P’s.

If Pan give Hook a portal, pan must have used them a lot to gather children to go and dance in the forest. Pan also mentioned that he would take some of the children to Neverland.

Pan also mentioned “visit in dreams”. Is it in the fire room, and is it anyone who is sleeping? Cue the creepy similarity to Nightmare on Elm Street.

Certain boys can hear the flute, as only certain people could hear the cries on the island. Only the “Unloved, Unwanted…” could hear.

Henry initially said he was not like Pan or the Lost Boys (Turns out Rumpel gave Pan the idea to call them that. Rumpel is involved with everything!).

Pan’s pipe is enchanted. Who enchanted it and how?

When Henry didn’t hear the pipe at first, I thought that Pan didn’t blow into the pipe.

Another funny Lana line about the Lost Boys using the colander to make Pasta, or should they be happy that Neal made a nightlight. Classic Regina stuff tonight.

Guessing games.

Pan is magical. Who was he and how did he become magical?

Neal not coating the tip of the arrow was one of the brilliant twists tonight.

Self Preservation is a nasty habit. On the flip side, sacrifice is a noble thing.

Pan wasn’t always immortal. Is there any Dark One knife? How did Pan become immortal?

Rumpel mentioned seeing people’s “true nature”. It reminds me of “denying who you really are” scenes.

Neal was worried that if Rumpel did the right thing today, what about tomorrow. Rumpel seemed like he wanted to change, but Neal didn’t trust him.

Rumpel wanted his ‘Redemption’. “Have faith and believe in me”

Neal used the old “Squid ink on the back of a leaf” trick to freeze Rumple.

Emma never stopped loving Neal.

“Never break into a place unless you know how to get out”

It was an interesting exchange between Neal and Pan about Neal winning by leaving the island and Pan asking, “but where are you now?”.

Pan now reset the board and a new game began.

Belle believes in Rumpel, but is it really Belle?

Pan tells Henry “We can be your family,” like Hook did.

Henry could hear the music, but is it a ruse to “play” along and trick Pan to get off the island?

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OUAT – Kitsis and Horowitz talk Season 2 before the Comic-Con panel

Once Upon A Time showrunners Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis talked to TV Guide about some season 2 plot lines – Regina’s hidden past, Emma and Mary Margaret’s relationship, and are we going to see Cora again?

Caution – spoilers ahead. 

Regina’s Shocking Origin Story, Storybrooke Future and More Once Upon a Time Scoop

Magic has come to Storybrooke, and with it, a whole lot of consequences.

In the Season 1 finale of ABC’s Once Upon a Time, the Evil Queen’s (Lana Parrilla) curse upon our favorite fairy-tale characters was broken, but Mr. Gold (Robert Carlyle) had another trick up his sleeve: release magic upon the real world. What does this mean for Storybrooke in Season 2? And why weren’t the residents of Storybrooke transported back to fairy-tale land?

Read more here – http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-A-Time-Season2-Spoilers-1049978.aspx

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OUAT – Lana Parilla Attends the Festival De Television de Monte Carlo

Lana Parrilla represented Once Upon A Time and attended the Festival de Television that took place in Monte Carlo this past week. The festivities included meet & greets and autobgraph signing with the stars, TV screenings, forums, and concluded with the Golden Nymph Ceremony. Here are some pictures from the event and Lana’s promotional video.

Golden Nymph Ceremony (Closing Ceremony)

For more coverage of the Festival De Television, check out their official website at http://www.tvfestival.com/2012/

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OUAT – Did we see Regina’s Skeleton Keys in the Finale?

Where have we seen Regina’s skeleton keys before?

We saw it when Emma was snooping around her office.

We (maybe) saw it in Fairytale land, when it was used to open the Snake of Agrabah box.

We saw Regina using it to break into David and Kathryn’s house.

We saw a single key in Mary Margaret’s jail cell.

And in the Once Upon A Time finale, did we see these keys again with the huntsman as he was helping Prince Charming escape to find Snow White?

Are these all the same set of keys? Is there maybe a duplicate set? Why does the huntsman have the keys? Did Regina give it to him or does he have his own set? Did the huntsman steal the keys to help Prince Charming and Snow White?

Share your thoughts with us on the comments below.

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OUAT – Snow and Charming: True Love Hurts

The moment Snow White took a bite of Regina’s poisonous apple.

She went to sleep where ‘her dreams would be full of all her regrets’

In that moment James felt it in his heart that his beloved Snow, something horrible had happened.

Their love, for each other is so strong that charming felt it.

How do you think James is going to get his ‘charming’ self out of the jail to save Snow? It is his turn after all.

Share your thoughts with us in the comments below.

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